CSPAN - Pres. Democratic Debate ......ready to watch? It's on now

in 2004!

Show Bush the door in 2004!
Show Bush the door in 2004!
Show Bush the door in 2004!


Kinda has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?

let's see what happens.

pretty sure.

i defintley want to go back over this and watch it.

:D

could you imagine if someone was late for the Fall debates

in Chicago at Navy Pier. Traffic still sucks. ;-)

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Against the trade agreements (i guess they all would say that now).
But his tone was good.

Edwards voted for China entering WTO (news to me). Say's he voted against others...but China is a big one. Also hammering on tax cuts being given to large corps offshore.

Railed against corps going off shore, fair trade, proposals to bring back jobs.

LOL

Al arrived....

woo hoo!

he voted against treaties...but what would he do..? That's a tough question.

The only woman, Carol Moseley-Braun has replied the best re traade and jobs!

It is my first dem debate this season. I am watching in honor of the Union folks. I hope they all do great, every one of them.

break down barriers....support manf....oppose unfair trade..against china on fraudulent parts and currency issues.

is about as good as I've ever seen him.

Of course, labor is his bread and butter issue....but damn, he actually looks INSPIRED!

is putting them to sleep.


LOL

Boy is he bad.

OMG

The moderator just said he arrived just in time for the next question

Sharpton: "I had a non-union cab driver."

LOL

crowd ate it up!

Is challenging Gephardt and Dean face to face.

wow

he's animated

boy is kucinich combative, but I am kind of surprised in terms of presentation (which is the only thing we can go on at this point) I kind of liked the ease of braun and sharpton. Kucinich is funny.

nt

very good points...

I'm sure the press will have that on your evening news (not)

he said he was late because he had a non union cab driver. Crowd laughed and cheered.

He's burning the place up

with the one liners! His whole message was full of them. LOL

:bounce:

on a rampage

on fire....but he's right. Poor candidates on the spot LOL

about "huge issues"....as the press focus's on Kobe.

in office will be to cancel NAFTA and WTO and quizing all the other candidants what they will do when they are in office re labor! Good point, Dennis!

That was odd, he didn't get to answer the jobs question.

thats nice.

hmmmmmm.... I am not sure this is a good strategy. I agree with him but IMO all the candidates made good points.

He's right about NAFTA, but that's not the right way to go about it.

perot senza the humor

It's the only explanation.

Passion is one thing. Impulse control is another.

dean wants the govt. to provide like many other industrial countries. Gephardt wants a business mandate to offer.

just asked a reeeeeally good question:

"why is health care tied to employment?"


anyone wanna answer that one?

good points...we pay the most and get less.

is just flat-out annoying and whiney...no matter how much sense he's making.

eom

employment? We spend more per capita for health insurance than any country in the world. We have to fix this system and provide coverage for everybody! There is enough money in the system to support a single payer system.

Kucinich sounds pretty damned fiery on the subject as well.

But I think Carol's answer made such sense without the lectern pounding.

Kucinich sounds pretty damned fiery on the subject as well.

But I think Carol's answer made such sense without the lectern pounding.

yeesh!

uncanny. Are we sure DK is NOT martin short?

dramatic....

Calling out the other candidates by name, screaming and yelling. I didn't realize this was going to be an uncivilized screaming match.

he looks and sounds like a lunatic

He is a little over the top IMHO and I don't like the way he is harping on the other candidates. If they were Repugs, I would say go for it, but I don't think he should be so in your face with his fellow Dems.

:eyes:

status quo candidate.

as weird as it is to say.

A universal health care plan is not feasable.

....very successful universal health care plans. The only reason we don't is because the THUGS don't want it. Well, screw them!!!!

Doesn't look good on him. :-(

I'm worried he's going to taint the whole debate with the screaming and yelling.

as opposed to constantly posting?

Kerry sounds AWFUL!

Is he sick?

Although he seems to have a lot of problems with his, it is very common for politicians on the campaign trail to lose their voices. VERY common. Think how much he has to talk.

making a lot of sense, having the govt. pay for catastophic stuff over $50,000

I guess I am a tough audience.

Sheesh. He needs to get some talent on his campaign staff. This stealing Dean's lines (waiting "40 years for healthcare" and so forth) has GOT to stop.

Eloriel

Graham used "Bush divides us by race, gender, sexual orientation" bit. I haven't been paying attention to Graham's campaign- maybe he's been using it all along, too but it's just the same as Dean's.

as opposed to constantly posting?

mirc and pirch users can just go to irc.allnewschat.com (server is 216.65.55.53)

Web users can go to http://www.allnewschat.com and use any of the java chat links

Create a room or /join #allnewschat - the forum is yours to use as you wish.

whose the best. (IMHO)

Kerry, like all, has the answer...doing it ...might be different.

they all see the problems... health care is a tough one... to know we have to read their proposals... what we need we know what we need... but how and on what schedule... awww I'm just am a cynic...

CEO pay, stop companies from cooking their books, democratize board, you deserve to be heard, you deserve to have a voice. Values, basic democratic values. taken away by GWB - need to make him jobless in 2004!

He's so good.

that sounded weird. does he know something we don't know

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this may take a bit

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Nasty tone.

yes he seems too pissed, but it is not grounded.

Kerry: "The American worker is tired of being trickled on by George W. Bush."

we get a break on the internet.. is he equating non collected internet sales tax with education?

The other candidates will start asking that he be not allowed to participate in the debates. And frankly, I don't blame them. If he wants to make his OWN case that's fine, but spending all of his time attacking Dean or whoever else.

WAY OUT OF LINE.

Do you people hear just what you want to on a regular basis?

The enemy is *. Take the RedBull IV out your arm Kucinich.

Kucinich is way out of line.

Good one.

I loved it.

My prediction:

"Howard Dean will close down all of the schools in America! Answer my question Dean! I'm the right candidate! Answer my question! This is the time for truth! I'm the one who save America! Howard Dean is a loser!"

Moderator: "Uhhhh, Governor Dean already went. So, Senator Edwards, what is your plan for......"

did you hear about them incinerating sarin nerve gas in alabama in a community that is mostly black. They are handing them plastic gas masks. How is this going on

boos from the crowd to Lieberman....

Sharpton is just a great orator. Contrast that with the Joe boos.

I thought on tawana -- I lost track of him after that. I am liking this carol braun though.

but ive been impressed with his campaign and the effort to bring out the base.

I am going to read up on him though and carol and gep and edwards, although with edwards little guy --- ah --- I am not sure I am buying it

graham off my list too.

is coming off centered.

is coming off very well.

I liked the look on his face when Kucinich took off on his health plan.

Gephardt has a point. Folks that are insured like their plans;especially when their employer is paying for it.


I'm beginning to think that Kerry and Dean will destroy one another and Gephardt will be the beneficiary.

the liberal philosophy as espoused by Harry Truman, Hubert Humphrey, and LBJ.

If you like that tradition Gephardt is your guy.

He is very convincing and he is needed to get people registered and out voting.

too funyy.

four years on vouchers... what a slick pr..k

;-)

He's winning some votes tonight.

try explaining to the impoverished parents of children in a failing school district why they shouldn't have the opportunity to send their children to private schools.

I think what Lieberman said make sense -- try some pilot projects. Vouchers should be available only to poor children. None of the money for the vouchers should come from the public school budget. Try it for a few years and see what happens. The Democrats used to be the party of innovation. Personally, I'm willing to try anything to improve the quality of public education, especially for poor people. And who knows? Perhaps the best public education will turn out to be a publicly funded private education. I don't think we should be so intimidated by the teacher's unions that we aren't willing to try something new.

teachers, too.

they are almost dead ringers for each other. It would be a piece a cake!

yup he is an orator alright very engaging.

Who was tonight's big loser?


Who was tonight's big winner?

That *must* be a record.

My preferences

Gephardt

Edwards

Graham

Kerry

Dean

Mosely Braun

Sharpton

Kucinich

Lieberman

I will read them all now... I haven't take too much interest yet... because this admin has depressed me so much... I am glad I caught this C-span feed though.

Go Dean!

Damn!!!

The feed dies...

ROTFLMFAO

I am sorry, I am an environmentalist...but the guy who called should realize they weren't asked about the environment (did I miss something?)This was a labor debate about labor concerns.

progressive dems are ridiculous
i thought i was watchin the socialist debate
shame on them for bashing shrub

apparently us socialists should bow before shrub and beg forgiveness for our ridiculousness...friggin freepers

a repuke for dean....just called in

Caller: "This administration will bring this country down." Spooky. As lightning strikes the Capitol in the background.

to the callers. Many also commented on the looney nature of the debate...I believe that was mostly because of Kooch. He has a unique energy.

Winners:
Kerry
Dean
Mosley-Braun
Sharpton
Gephardt

Losers:
Kucinich
Lieberman
Edwards

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Graham

The "Republican love" is so apparent!! :eyes:

that would take the whole shabang!