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Space Cadet Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:10 PM
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When Extremist Rule
I can remember when I was younger, Texas was controlled by the Democratic Party. Texas had 150 years of Democratic Governors and 154 years of Democratic lead legistlator Body. Now all that is gone. Texas has had 2 back to back Republican govenors and after the November 2002 elections took control over both houses on legistors for the first time since Reconstruction.

So what has happened? As I see the leaders of the Democratic party today I see extremist who are far to the left of the center. This has caused moderate and conservatve democrats to be defeated all over the country. Not just Texas. Repubs control the White House, Senate, House of Reps and the Supreme Court, and the Democratic leaders are going further left. Do they think that the average working class family gets up every morning and worries about gay marriage or if the Boy Scouts are letting gay troop leaders? I have news for them, the average family doesnt. We worry about good schools, jobs, affordable healt care and security. As long as the extremist and special interest groups run our party, the tweener votes (independents) will vote Repub. Gore did a good job at first in his campaign talking like a populist, but then the extremist started opening their mouths and attacked fine American Institutions like the Boy Scouts and it cost Gore big time.

How did the far left take control of the Party for the People?
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:13 PM
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1. Well I am not sure
about that he won the election
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:13 PM
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2. Just a guess, but maybe . . .
it's because people couldn't tell the difference between republicans and "moderate democrats."

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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:14 PM
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3. Guess they wanted to
distinguish themselves from the Repubs.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:15 PM
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4. How did the far right take control of Reagan's Party?
"Do they think that the average working class family gets up every morning and worries about gay marriage or if the Boy Scouts are letting gay troop leaders? I have news for them, the average family doesnt. We worry about good schools, jobs, affordable healt care and security."

If they worry so much about schools, jobs, health care, then WHY on Earth do they vote Republican? It should be obvious by now to even the dullest voter that Republicans will do everything in their power to privatize schools, ship jobs over seas, and roll in the $ of rich pharmaceutical companies while thumbing their noses at sick, poor people. How can anyone bother to pick anything BUT the left, no matter how far it goes? :shrug:
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:23 PM
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5. The problem is that
gay marriage, abortion and other issues are a small part of the liberal agenda that gets totally blown up out of proportion by the right during election time. So people vote for the "family values" candidate who promises them those things you want, like health care and security, then when they are in office they rob your taxes and forget the promises.

It's time for voters to wise up to these right-wing tactics and vote for the candidate, the Democratic candidate, who will take care of the things that are important to them. This candidate may also support gay and women's issues, but this is only a small part of what he stands for.

Wise up to how you are being manipulated by the right. The minute you hear words like "partial birth abortion" change the conversation right then and there to children who aren't getting decent health care because their parents don't have insurance.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:38 PM
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6. Exactly!
How on earth could anyone ever again vote for Bush*? Not only is he and his gang repugnant and their ideas not democratic, they have changed from who they said they were and they did it the instant they got into the office. I doubt even Repubs who voted for the "compassionate conservative" could even recognise him now. It has been a smoke and mirrors game from the start and all of us not connected to them are getting skunked on daily. Why so left? WHY NOT!
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:50 PM
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7. You make a good point here
There is a book you should read call "Why the White Working Class Still Matters". It is a great book.

What role do you think the gun issue has played?
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Space Cadet Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 12:06 AM
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8. The Gun issue
I believe that the Far Left wing of the Democratic Party's assault on gun rights is the leading factor as to why the Democratic Party lost ever single southern state in the 2000 Presidential elecion and all the western states except New Mexico and the west coast.

The far left is just as bigoted and invasive into personal lifes as the far right. We need a Labor Party like in the UK (Tony Blair's Party) Let the far left and far right wither on the vine. The common working class should run this country. We would be able to provide Public Ed, Health care, jobs, fair wages, and security without wasting time talking about Gay's in the military or any other issue that the far left always consumes our party leaders with.

This use to be the Party for the People!
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 12:09 AM
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9. This is one of the reasons I favor Dean.
He has put the gun issue off the table and I think his position will appeal to the southern gun owner.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 12:11 AM
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10. Let me say this
I think you have a point. The biggest problem that I think that the Democrats have is that a large enough share of the electorate thinks that the Party is "hostile" to mainstream values.

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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 05:16 PM
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12. "wasting time talking about Gays in the military"
I agree. Let them serve openly and no one will have to talk about this silly issue any more.
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 12:12 AM
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11. I only WISH the dem party had been taken over by EXTREME leftists!
Edited on Fri Aug-08-03 12:15 AM by DagmarK
"As I see the leaders of the Democratic party today I see extremist who are far to the left of the center."

What planet are you on?

As for Texas' history as a staunch democratic stronghold.....I agree. I miss the days when the dems ruled the state. And I am awfully glad I was there for the sesquicentennial when the whole state celebrated the old fashioned American way for a full year.

What happened to Texas is quite simply a new resident named Karl Rove who moved there circa 1980.......
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 05:21 PM
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13. DON'T FEED!!!
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 05:22 PM
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14. The Far Left and they Far Right...
They're both in the party. The anti-gun, anti-meat, anti-world trade Uber-Left, and the Lieberman-esque DLC "ReTHUG Light" "Democrats", like Daschle, Lieberman, and Bayh, etc.on the right side.

I don't get up every morning and worry about Gay Marriage and the Boy Scouts, that comes AFTER coffee. What I do worry about is when I wake up and am thankful I don't have some of Arschloch's "MIB" leaning over looking at me....
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 05:44 PM
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16. The press likes extremists
So lately the far left has been able to out shout the majority of the party.

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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 05:48 PM
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17. Rush, is that you?
:)
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