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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 03:41 PM
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Poll question: How long until Noelle Bush is back in rehab?
Today, our favorite Governor's daughter was released from rehab (good for her). So, I wanted to put it to my fellow DUers to see how long it would be until she's back in rehab. Opinions welcome.
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tsipple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 03:45 PM
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1. CNN: Breaking News...
Edited on Fri Aug-08-03 04:10 PM by tsipple
Noelle is back in rehab. Just appeared on the CNN crawl.

:-)

(On edit: Yes, this is a joke. Upon reflection not a very funny one. President Bush's policies, also shared by some Democrats, are not an answer to drug problems facing many Americans. It's just too bad that Governor Jeb Bush seems to understand the policy problem only when it comes to the welfare of his daughter.)
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 03:46 PM
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2. You're joking
You have to be joking.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 03:47 PM
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5. verification?
or is that a joke
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 03:46 PM
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3. wow, I picked 6 months and it went from 0 to 3 votes
who else has a great mind here?
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votein04 Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 03:47 PM
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4. This kind of thing would be more suited to FR
Small-minded tripe.

Don't waste your time attacking innocent civilians for what SHOULD be private failings and ordeals.

Get the word out to vote in '04

It is THE most important task ahead of us...get all democrats to the polls to get rid of this terrible "president".
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 03:51 PM
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9. I agree.
This little girl needs privacy and support. She is an innocent. Attach her adult family but leave her out of it.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 04:20 PM
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21. Tell us more about FR!
You seem to be well up on that den of gouhls!
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 04:36 PM
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22. you mean ghouls
and yes, this guy seems to be very familiar with FR.
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votein04 Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 03:48 PM
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6. This kind of thing would be more suited to FR
Small-minded tripe.

Don't waste your time attacking innocent civilians for what SHOULD be private failings and ordeals.

Get the word out to vote in '04

It is THE most important task ahead of us...get all democrats to the polls to get rid of this terrible "president".
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 03:53 PM
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10. so sorry to ruin your day but...
I feel bad for the young lady, but she's got a prick for a dad who happens to come from the party of "family values". Gee maybe they are a bunch of hypocrites? :hi:
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 03:29 PM
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36. so that makes her fair game?
disgusting..
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 05:30 PM
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42. Hey bear, we're all rooting for her
Edited on Sat Aug-09-03 05:31 PM by NewYorkerfromMass
and that seems to be a hell of a lot more than her dad is doing for her.
So sorry to disgust you.... but Jeb IS disgusting.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 03:49 PM
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7. Id be shooting Heroin daily
if JEB was my dad.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 03:50 PM
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8. Voted one year
and wish her luck. Drugs are an insidious disease and addiction should be treated as such, not as a criminal act. Of course her father and uncle seem to want everybody elses children to be treated as criminals if they are drug and/or alcohol addicts. Good luck to Ms. Bush and I wish her a nice life. One question though, if she gets arrested again, does she do time or go back to rehab?
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 03:53 PM
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11. You boys play nice
Personally, I object to the conservative point of view on drug use. Noelle should get a chance to start her life again. I hate her father, too, but don't make her an object of derision.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 04:06 PM
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14. Perhaps this is also about her father?
an uglier man cannot be found on this planet.
His role in the selection was key.
His crimes against democracy the worst.

Perhaps if he were not so busy insuring the political success of his family (and boffing Kate Harris or whatever they did together) and instead tending to his duties as a father, there would not be an issue? Jeb is a piece of filfth, and the apple has apparently not fallen far from the tree.
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Yentatelaventa Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 06:40 PM
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24. Many of my friends have had drug problems too
None of them had a dad that was a "piece of filfth". More tap dancing.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 03:55 PM
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12. This is an ugly, ugly thread. You are suggesting that her relapse

into using drugs again is somehow humorous. Shame on you.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 10:30 AM
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27. This thread is not ugly and no shame on me for asking.
It was an honest and legitimate question. My best friend of 15 years was addicted to crack. He's been in and out of rehab and jail for almost as long as we've been friends. I asked this to illicit a response from others who may or may not be in a similar situation.
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 01:43 PM
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33. well it is
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 04:05 PM
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13. Can't really answer this poll.
If the question was how long till she's back on drugs it would be easier. I hope she'll stay clean, but the odds aren't good. The thing is, she will only end up back in rehab if she A-goes back on drugs, and, B-gets caught. For her sake, I hope that A never happens. But if it does, I do hope that it's closely followed by B, as opposed to C-overdosing. The poor thing. I feel sorry for all the Bush girls. It must be hell to be female in that family.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 04:08 PM
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16. Well, maybe Babs isn't the best womanly role model
didn't she call Hillary a B****? Not a great matronly granny if you ask me.
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Warren Stuart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 05:16 PM
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41. She implied that Geraldine Ferraro was a bitch
Her words were "I can't say what she is but it rhymes with rich"
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Gringo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 04:07 PM
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15. I'm so pleased
That most of the responses here have not stooped to bashing this poor girl. Her Dad, Uncle and Grandpa deserve all the derision and scorn. I wish her well, hope she gets out of her scummy dad's shadow and creates a beautiful, happy life for herself.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 04:11 PM
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17. exactly. this isn't about her so much as her family support
or lack thereof. Remember: Jeb didn't appear at her court appearance last fall. The prick.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 04:11 PM
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18. I do too
but she is the poster child for Republican hypocrisy when it comes to the drug war, and her example CANNOT be let go
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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 04:15 PM
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19. Governor's daughter
Give the girl a break. Be supportive. None of her family is except one brouther. Jeb and the precious Columbia don't have time for her. And after reading 10 years of sickening right wing tabaloid smears on Clinton's daughter, it doesn't matter what I think of the rest of them. She deserves all our support.
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Isome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 10:41 AM
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29. Her mom...
was too busy trying to smuggle things past Customs' without declaring them to give her much support. *ha ha*

Her and her drug addiction aren't the objects of scorn here, it's the family she was born into and the glaring hypocrisy of her multiple stints in rehabilitation, while the adult children of modest means or with poor parents are sent to jail!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 04:18 PM
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20. I would have said about a week if:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
she hadn't gotten out on Friday! Ask Paw Paw Poppy and Unka Dumbya where the best family value on an 8 ball can be had! Some good skag gettin' ripe in the new state of Afghanistan too!
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Yentatelaventa Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 06:37 PM
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23. Sometime after Dean's son drives another burglary getaway car?
Hard telling not knowing.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 06:48 PM
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25. Our drug policies are not working
not the war on drugs, which costs us billions. And, sadly, not our treatment of people like Noelle. These people need our help and support, not derision. The Bush administration's punative policies don't strengtthen our society. Noelle, with all her advantages, is not getting better. And she's lucky because she has a family with influence. Think of all the people in prison for drugs. Who is this helping? Do I need to be protected against people like Noelle? We're just warehousing huge numbers of people who have not committed violent crimes.
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zekeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 07:16 PM
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26. I didn't vote
I just hope she gets the help she needs to keep her clean. If she goes back into rehab to fight those demons, so be it. Returning to rehab shouldn't be seen as failure - she had all her life to get fucked up, to think she would get straight in one, 3 month (was that the timeline?) stretch is unlikely, relapse is not unlikely and, in addiction theory, not failure.

Now her family? For them, I hope to see confinement - treasons charges, etc.
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Isome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 03:36 PM
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37. "she had all her life to get fucked up"
Perfect! That's the most logical response to multiple stays in rehab that I've ever heard. Thanks, I'm going to use that if a similar subject ever comes up again.

People like Morton Downey, Jr. should have a card with that printed on it, so if they start to stumble, or just stumble again, they won't get into the self-defeating cycle of thinking of themselves as failures.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 10:32 AM
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28. when did she get out
.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 11:00 AM
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30. If you were one of the "brown" Bushes as Grandpoppy called her
you'd take drugs too. This family is so meanspirited they can't even treat their own with compassion.
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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 11:08 AM
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31. And I thought repukes were shameless.
Regrettably, DU can no longer stake the moral high ground with insensitive and ignorant threads like these.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 01:42 PM
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32. This isn't shameless nor insensitive
It's a legitimate question. My best fried of 15+ years was a crack addict. I wanted to spark a conversation to see if others have had a similar experience. Perhaps I should have stated this in my original post.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 02:01 PM
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34. Too many celeb addicts who rehab as a substitute for jail
Indeed, Noelle was caught with crack on the premises. That's why I have a hard time feeling sorry for her. I was, however, charitable enough to give her a year. I can only hope she's really learned her lesson instead of taking a vacation.


rocknation
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 02:05 PM
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35. I wish her the best; I sincerely do
as I do for anyone struggling with the terrible curse of addiction.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 03:51 PM
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38. Any individual who would ask...
people to vote on the miseries of another is a sick individual. Are you really John Poindexter in disguise or what? :eyes:
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 05:02 PM
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39. How is this sick?
Read my other posts (27, 32) before launching into righteous invective, Ms. 51 Posts.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 05:08 PM
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40. Addiction is just that - you need a strong supportive family
to survive and with some addictions, such as heroin, it is a losing battle. This girl needs to go somewhere where her family IS NOT!

If she were to be confined on an island in the middle of nowhere she might have a chance - with her family background - I doubt it.

We're pretty honest and sometimes brutal here, but we are mostly correct.
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