What if Kerry IS denied Communion?

How will that effect his campaign? Would it cost him any votes? I used to think something like that would never happen but the NJ governor was just denied it.

I however don't see it as having much of an effect, Catholics for the most part either:

1-don't give a fuck what the church says about "moral" issues (Kerry falls into this category)
or
2-are Repukes anyway

unless you're Catholic, I can't see it being negative. Even then, I'm sure most Kerry Catholics would still support him.

It shows that he is not controlled by the Vatican.

It will also make it harder for people like myself to vote for Catholics in good standing - if you earnestly believe that being exiled from the Church will mean you are going to Hell, and the Church will exile you for not toeing its line, how am I supposed to support the person without supporting the Church?

"Thou shalt not kill" unless you're executing a retarded man with the mind of a 7 year old.

I'm not following your point.

Bush is a Christian who obviously is not in good standing as a Christian, yet his supporters think he is.

oh nevermind,

or I should say corporation.

1. Largest operator of private schools in America
2. 230 Catholic Universities with 670,000 students and endowments like Notre Dame at 2.8 billion
3. 637 Hospitals with 17% of admission in US
4. 1400 charities

These are just some of the open Church fact. Investments must be enormous.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/02_15/b3778004.htm

Kerry's people will pre-arrange with the bishops and priests and will alter his travel schedule to avoid dioceses with right wing bishops.

The right wingers are taking over the Church in America right now. No one knows how it will all play out.

but a few American Bishops (4 I think?) feel the need to deny communion to pro-choice politicians.

It appears that the American ones are purposely sabbotaging his campaign.

like most politicians, he will visit churches which welcome him on the campaign.

Ask him if the Republican candidate, or the Democrat, most closely share his beliefs.

It would affect my feelings about the Church, not about Kerry. That is unless the Church started denying communion to politicians who don't follow Catholic teaching on treatment of children, the poor, farmers, the environment, and the death penalty.

Two reasons:

1. Unlike other organized religions such as Baptists or Evangelicals, Catholics are found in all sorts of cultures such as Irish, Hispanics, Italians, ect. Most of these groups at least in my opinion don't tend to play ball with the whole conservative/judge everyone and tell em they are going to hell attitude.

2. Most Catholics don't ignore the hypocracy in claiming to be pro-life but then denying people basic entities such as food and healthcare. The Catholics I know that are pro-life at least at the same time say "but on the other hand although this guy claims to be pro-life he chooses wealth over helping his fellow man"

Denying communion based on political leanings is a gross misuse of the meaning of the ceremony as it is a ceremony used to absolve one who has confessed their sins NOT as a tool to apply political pressure on a person.

Admittably I get very very irritated when people attempt to lump us Catholics into the same group as fundies because of some deranged bishops who are obviously completely out of touch with the real world. Most of us go against the church in social matters.

So if we're not being painted as "repukes" by the left we're being attacked by the religious right as being heretics and not "real" Christians.

I'm not saying you should automatically welcome every Catholic you meet regardless of where they stand, but I am saying that overall Catholics are left leaning and are NOT on the same page as the fundies who scream about fire and brimstone 24/7.

has used the weapon of excommunication for centuries to control the leaders of European nations.

The Pope came out against the Iraq War, and nary a threat was passed to Catholic politicians and tv personalities who supported the war, cough O'reilly cough, about excommunication. If they pull this bs then it is a clear attack on the Democratic Party, and I would hope all good Catholics would abandon the Church for the whore that it is.

Although he is a practising Catholic, he and Teresa Heinz Kerry attend a non-traditional church, the Paulist Center, which is not funded by the Roman Catholic church. Since his church is not funded by the Boston Archdiocese, I can't see him being denied the Eucharist there.