Letter: "Kerry 'Unfit to be Commander-in-Chief'" How damaging to us?

How much were these guys paid to come out and do this?

I had the same reaction when I read it.

where you belong .. Folks this is a FREEPER POST >>

just what the bush regime pays them to do.

Just tell EVERYONE that anyone who signed such a bogus piece of crap is a moonie.

stick our heads in the sand. If we are attacked, we must always be prepared to respond.

CNS is on every page of Free Republic in their header. CNS is rabid right wing garbage and is not even legitimate news. Why would anyone waste their time with responses. CNS equals Freepers equals rabid right wing.

would never post such a DUBIOUS source at DU and then try to get everyone worried about it.

I don't like seeing thread titles like this on DU's front page. I get suspicious.

This will not happen until tomorrow, so if Kerry does something now, he can difuse this bomb before it goes off.

Use Bush's preemptive strike strategy against him.

You indicate you would like Kerry to spend his time on freeper garbage instead of promoting his own campaign.

The rabid right freepers also keep doing putting out stuff like this and demanding Kerry waste time defending instead of promoting.

Why are you demanding the same thing freepers demand?

then I guess you're right.

Sorry for overreacting. :pals:

They will go all over the net demanding over and over that Kerry defend himself against made up CNS news.

Don't just assume that everyone in the world has the same political acumen (and insight) that you do.

I suppose I just don't have the stomach for hardball politics.

No. Was I the one asking Kerry waste his time responding to Freeper news propaganda? No.

Was I the one spreading CNS propaganda? No.

Easy on what?

FAR outweigh yours. For starters, I went to Brown U., where I was, inter alia, a KEY organizer of the protest against David Horowitz's racist ad against reparations in the BDH (Brown Daily Herald).

What have YOU done for the cause (besides whine on message boards)?

How about a little flip-flop and make it a trifecta?

What have YOU done?

Now you demand I do.

And since I will not play your game, you will use the meme "see our allegations are right, they won't defend themselves. So the allegations must be true"

This will not happen until tomorrow, so if Kerry does something now, he can difuse this bomb before it goes off.

No need. Kerry has the medals and the scars to prove that he served honorably. A few jealous people can't change that. For sure, he's far more qualified to lead as commander-in-chief than the idiot pretender-in-thief who never got so much as a hair on his head mussed during his entire period of disservice to the nation. (And to think that MY tax dollars paid for his meals and his flight lessons! Grrrrr!!!!!!!!!!)

This motley crew that thinks it's making some sort of history is sadly deluded. All they're doing is highlighting the lack of qualifications of Senator Kerry's opposition. But I do wish them luck. Anyone who manages to make the Chimp look bad has my total support.

When the Bush Administration tries to smear a genuine war hero, they should be called on the carpet. I'd like to see Kerry hold a press conference tomorrow morning surrounded by his former crew members, pointing out the astonishing difference between John Kerry's service to America and George W. Bush's cowardice.

the pundits attacked him for being "testy, angry, defensive" and even having the wrong "body language."

He's damned if he does, and he's damned if he doesn't. I agree -- I'd rather see him fighting back than rolling over.

I won't taint my browser by pointing it anywhere NEAR Newsmax. :puke:

And you read and cite CNS but not Newsmax? Why? They are one and the same.

Referenced in another posts; these are both hard right wing sources. It's not going to be too damaging till it hits the mainstream media; and if and when it does it depends on how it plays out. For one I don't believe that he really has all those signatures; I suspect we'll have an embarrasing moment where he has to admit that he missed a signature or two. Also other veterans, the band of brothers, will come to Kerry's defense.

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just as he had been instructed by Nixon/Colson and for which he has been handsomely rewarded for decades by big oil industry DOLLARS.

I dare some reporter to ask O'Neill and his cronies what they think of Bush's service during that same time? Is going AWOL from the guard considered exemplary Commander-in-Chief material to them?

He didn't serve with Kerry. He served on the same boat AFTER Kerry had left the service. And he's the guy who debated Kerry on the Dick Cavett Show in 1971, after meeting with Colson, Nixon, et al in the White House.

His law firm in Houston has ties to the Bush Administration. Although O'Neill is claiming to be an independent, that's just cover to try to give him some legitimacy. In Texas, you don't register your party affiliation, ergo every registered voter can claim to be independent.

Note: In the introduction to the Cavett debate played recently on C-Span, O'Neill stated outright that he had NOT been the White House prior to the debate, that he went later. However, the Nixon Tapes have proved him a liar. He was hand-picked by the Nixon Administration to debate Kerry and was ushered into the Oval Office to meet with Nixon BEFORE the debate. He's a bald-faced liar.

This is just partisan flak for the freepers.

Did they make reference to his sterling military career. His vast knowledge of foreign affairs? BULLSHIT

:puke:

Fucking O'Neill wasn't even in Nam when John Kerry was there.

This is from Joe Conason:

The GOP's not-so-impartial hit man
Desperate to denigrate John Kerry's war record, Republicans have trotted out a "nonpartisan" Navy Vietnam vet -- who was a protege of Nixon dirty trickster Charles Colson and whose law firm is closely tied to the Bush White House.

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By Joe Conason



April 23, 2004 | Houston attorney John E. O'Neill, the Navy veteran who has emerged recently as a harsh and ubiquitous critic of John Kerry's military service, tells reporters that he has never really been interested in politics and isn't motivated by partisan interests. In the media, O'Neill is often described simply as a Vietnam vet still enraged by the antiwar speeches Kerry delivered more than 30 years ago. That was when O'Neill first came to public attention as a clean-cut, pro-war protégé of the Nixon White House's highest-ranking dirty trickster (aside from the late president himself), Charles Colson.

http://archive.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/04/23/o_neill/index.html

as posted by demdave in one of the other threads on this topic, is Spaeth Communications, contact person is Merrie Spaeth.

According to www.fundrace.org, Merrie Spaeth, a consultant for Spaeth Communications, gave $2,000 to George Bush. Address given is Dallas, Texas.

Former director of media relations for Ronald Reagan, also former special assistant to William Webster (former FBI director).

www.speaking.com/speakers/merriespaeth.html

wake me up before you go go, as George Michaels once said.

Amazingly pathetic.

Kind of like saying Cleland didn't really make a sacrifice.

25, huh? Yeah. Impressive.

Nice try. I also like the "hundreds... are set to" meaning they haven't done it.

So this is what you can buy with a hundred million dollars.

Has already been exposed as a repuke dirty tricks operative, and his missive has been given the lack of serious consideration that it deserves.He works for a Texas law firm that is very active in repuke politics in Baja Oklahoma.

Furthermore, O'Neill did not serve in The nam with Kerry. he arrived in-country 2 months after Kerry had cycled out.

Write this thing down on toilet paper and wipe your ass with it. It is all it's good for.

Furthermore, consider your quoted source: CNS is a frother lie generator, nothing more. Anything that comes off that site should be regarded as the ravings of Scaife/Olin/Ahmunson-funded lunatics.

...for the Republican operative he really is. Unless the press has their head stuck up their ass, they all already know that he didn't serve with Kerry (although he'll certainly make it sound as if he did).

I think a lot depends on whose names are on the letter. But seeing as CNSnews.com is the one breaking the story, I am pretty confident that the mainstream (yes, corporate) press is going to expose O'Neill and neutralize the story as just more partisan ranting and raving.

Really- what's newsworthy about "Republicans say bad things about Kerry?" It's a "dog-bites-man" kind of headline, isn't it?

-MR

That means those that believe in Kerry will continue to believe in him. Vietnam was a long time ago and isn't as relevant as many think. It might influence a few swing voters one way or another. Some might think it makes a difference. Some may go for Kerry because they believe he's being ganged up on.

If had come out right before the election it might have had more impact. Either way it might backfire.

I remember reading that O'Neill left two months before Kerry arrived in-country. He has no personal experience of Kerry in combat, so how would he know?

O'Neill guy?

to undermine Kerry then. He is a longtime operative who reaps his rewards over the decades from big oil industry contracts for his law firm. He is EVIL.

"CNSNews.com provides excellent background, context, history and analysis about the events of the day. They also break new ground on stories that mainstream journalists don't cover."
-- Rush Limbaugh

"CNSNews.com gives me the tools to keep my listeners informed."
-- Michael Reagan

"...facts that you can print out and share with your friends... and those facts can be used to convert people to the truth."
-- Cal Thomas

ho hum...

Just more contrived GOP propaganda. I saw that O'Neil on CSPAN or something the other day. His hate for Kerry goes to the bone. You would think O'Neil has better things to do. But like all the other pukes, he wants a piece of the war spoils too. They don't just do these things for nothing.

guess is that once the names of these nut-jobs show up on that petition and some research is done about them it'll show the right-wing attack agenda for what it truly is.

Could I make a more run on sentence?

Shocking!

I don't think so.

He's about as fit a Sharon Osbourne before the stomach staple.

Because pretty soon, people are going to wake up. They will realize:

"Gee, I got so caught up in all the fun of scapegoating, nationalism, and invoking moral superiority that I forgot to notice that Bush is severely unqualified and unfit to be President!"

Sounds like this is Freeper inspired to me.

why were they silent all those years when Kerry was a Senator for the US government?

Do they not realize they will come across as nothing but a bunch of dried up jealous partisans that back Bush*?

Hundreds of former military colleagues to disparage Kerry's service in VietNam and call in question his ability to be CinC. Yet, not ONE ANG member to confirm Bush's presence for about a year of Guard duty.

if this election means mud wrestling with thugs, then we'll just have to call on the AAN(The American Academy of Neurology) for a professional assessment and differential diagnosis of *'s "spells".

not let this die - only Carville types will help, but they only have about 3 minutes.

Robertson and Limbaugh will go with this and they have every elderly evangelical eating it up and burping it on C-SPan.

And DeLay and Rove will follow through with their soldeirs.

another i think it is time the american people, hagel, mccain adn the dems stand up and say, hey, our military is not republican, our military is a political, it is all of ours, democrats republican independents athiests christians muslims......f*ckin knock this crap off as you all abuse your power as you sit in war, and make poor choices and are doing a shitty job. dont tell me who to vote for as you abuse prisoners, cover up and lie, go in without enough troops, keep it at not enough troops, extend the time for those troops there, go to war in lie................

dont tell me what you think should be, cuase you guys arent doing a good enough job for me and your are playing politics. it is not kerrys capabilities you have issue with it is your party you are representingm, and we arnt even kinda stupid enough to not see

I'm a little low on sympathy for this one.




Note: That doesn't mean O'Neill isn't an asshole.

I suppose they're going to back up that claim with something?

This is a non-event!

You're right. I'm staying home on election day. You convinced me.

I'm sure they could get a similar letter printed up. John O'Neil is a fraud.

How low can these wingnuts go? I guess Jesus Christ is unfit also.

I'm staying home on election night. You convinced me.

The Repugs are at best spinning their wheels going after Kerry on this issue. I hope they keep doing it. By politicizing the matter, they are giving Kerry the opportunity to compare his military record to that of George Bush. They think war is a strong suit for Bush, but that's because they really don't value the lives of American soldiers. Places like CNS want Bush to win even if it means more American soldiers dying in Iraq. I don't think the American people feel quite the same way.

Is this a cause for concern? Any opinions?

Twenty-five letter signers coming? You gotta be kiddin'!

Let them call all the "press conferences" they want. They'll have to pay someone to come if they want the press there. Who on earth cares about this nonsense?

However, there are some people who can be swayed easily-those are the only ones it may effect, but they will see the truth before elections.

ONeill has already been exposed as a right-wing Bush hitman.

Oh, yes, he learned to fly an obsolete fighter plane that was NEVER a "front-line" fighter even when it was new. Then Deserted.

He's a "War President" (why do I think of the album cover to "War Child" everytime I hear that?) Yeah, such a bang-up job he's doing, too.

About the only thing I see that the Chimp can claim as fitness to be C-I-C is that he speaks the same language as all those Promise-Keeper "Holy Warrior" types in the officer corps who think they're working to bring Jeebus back....

just because they find some crusty old former draftees who listen to Gush Pflegmball...

What is the NUMBER ONE reason Kerry's "not fit" to be C-I-C?

He's not a ReTHUGlican. Period.

O'Neill used to be Chuck Colson's butt boy...

maybe the fact that he never was in a war?

Please give it a rest!

when the talking heads take over the airwaves. The original post was about a press conference, and as that, is news. Where it goes from there will be seen soon enough. I think the info on the group....Swift Boat Veterans for Truth...is good to know. Knowing where attacks are coming from is wise. It also brings up the fact that the left is not the only side to take advantage of "527" groups. This could be just the beginning. That is why I do not support ANY 527's putting ads out.

If ya don't know how to be a "runner & a hider" you'll never be a good Commander in Chief.
Ya gotta have these skills to fight wars!
Ya gotta be good at "runnin & hidin'", in war, so you can run & hide from the Iraqis.
That's why repukes think Kerry won't be a good Commander in Chief. He's got to much bravery in him.

Ya gotta be like george, with those inborn skills.
george is the best "runner & hider" Amerikas ever had!

We need a "runner & hider" for Commander in Chief. And george has been honing those "runnin & hidin" skills all his life!
Just like a Wild CAT!
And wild cats run and they hide too.

So there.

spread the facts!
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?city=HOUSTON&st=TX&last=O%27Neill&first=John

Not to mention his non-support of his OWN troops by denying them, food, armor, and benefits? People who live in glass enlistments shouldn't throw stones.

:headbang:
rocknation

this thread should be locked ..

...and announce that a group of veterans who served with Bush will speak.

At the appointed time, slowly pan the camera across endless rows of empty seats.