Did you see this crap?

Clinton Nixed OBL Indictment for Black Hawk Down

The article is at http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/5/3/124916.shtml

Do you think this is a GOP conspiracy?

please, please, take it away!!!!!

Today has been the strangest in months -- so many right wing articles, so little saliva left in my mouth.

:puke:

:loveya:

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you used a personal attack to answer that post (so it's deleted) .. but DID indicate that bhenries was the ONLY person you knew at DU ..

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whats the point of even posting that here anyway? anyone whos at DU knows about the sources they are giving. all right wing rethug arse kissing media.

I am just starting out at this, and I am not familiar with all of the right wing crap...that is why i am here, to learn!

than fictional depictions of what they wish the news was.

Frankly it is quite difficult to believe that anyone with the simple intelligence to post a message to not realize that. And I'm not saying someone has to be bright to be able to post.

Does that mean that because I am new at this, that I am dumb?

But please don't treat me as if I am.

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no explanation needed.

I am relatively new to the whole political forum/internet site thing-i came across it using a search engine. It annoyed me!

:toast:

Hey I have some beautiful oceanfront property for sale, PM me.

How is it a conspiracy? The important
question would be whether or not it's a lie.
But even that would not be very important,
it was a long time ago in an action the Bush I
got started for us.

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do yourself a favor, and check out mediamatters.org.

Your cats are very cute....I looove kitties!!!!

A big shout out to MoPaul for the animation.

:hi:

p.s. lots more kitty threads and pics can be found in the DU Lounge.

He is a FoxNews hack

And the claimed middleman in the Sudan offer of Bin Laden

No credibility what so ever

my Mansoor article on my website about that idiot.

Fair and Balanced my ass

http://www.ypeace.org/mustbetrue.html

on Hannity. Mansoor was claiming to have "brokered" the deal to get Bin Laden. Rangel asked him, in what capacity was he acting on behalf of the US government. He replied, as a US citizen, to which Rangel proceeded to ream him out about how the hell he had authority to negotiate on behalf of the US. He laughed him off, didn't even begin to take him seriously. After that, they stopped putting him on so much.

... the same dip-wads who complain non-stop that Clinton treated the war on terror as a "law enforcement" issue will now complain that he hesitated to issue an indictment?

How do these people sleep at night?!?

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Very good point

Spongebob RULES! :bounce:

Newsmax is just another Right Wing machine, like Billie O'Smilely, it claims to be impartial, but it is not.

Sorry...never heard of "Newsmax" before...search engine!

...blame Clinton for everything, create as much smoke as possible and be sure that what is said will sell books.

Do they sponser it or something?

This story was so false that event the Washington Times shot it down, as reprinted in this bartcom article:

http://www.bartcop.com/clinton-terrorism-truth.htm

It's a common tactic of disruptors, especially those with low post counts, to post right-wing talking points with a feigned Get a load of this! intro, asking How can we respond? It seems to be happening a lot, lately.

Now, I'm not impugning your motives. I'm just trying to explain the reactions your post has garnered, and to give you a head's up. If you plan to stick around, this is something you'll want to avoid.

Will do in the future! My mistake!

>> calling the florist ...

Thank you for being understanding!

extreme sarcasm/

to your average freeper Clinton's penis was considered a WMD wasn't it?

That's what we were looking for in Iraq. :D

:pals:

Why come on a progressive board and post right wing crap that's already been debunked thousands of times?

deleted when we reply. I'm kinda tired of having my posts deleted today. over a 1000 posts and today is the first time I've had posts deleted.

here's my parting shot:

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They want you to reply so they can get you banned. We just have to respond to the content of the post and not the poster.

Now I just try the alert function first. I'm sure I'll lose a couple today too.

cuz Imma giving up :)

*sigh*

will they EVER get over Clinton ?????

Believing anything they say is the moral equivalent of believing the Nazi Newspaper.

hey, didja' hear NewsMax said the Jews are using the Blood of Christian Children to bake in Passover Matzos?

:puke: :puke:

Pay no mind to LYING LIARS.

You won't see mention of the 250 or so Marines Reagan lost in a single day in Beirut. And why were they there? We withdrew right after it happened.

If you are new to the internet or new to political discussion boards, then this site which details the right wing media and who funds them or what their agenda is will be informative

http://www.mediatransparency.org

More on NEwsmax here:
http://www.mediatransparency.org/all_in_one_results.php?Message=newsmax

At least someone isn't attacking me...thank you for sticking up for me!

how about a link to a REAL news source? :argh:

I see several people with stars by their name attacking this person. If you have a star then you can easily search his posts. I did. The person that started this thread has posted mostly positive or supportive posts concerning Democrats. The fact that Newsmax was an article he or she posted is indicative of nothing and they stated they did not realize it.

If you suspect someone is a freeper then hit the alert but attacking this person when you could easily search their posts and be given EVERY reason in the world to give them the benefit of the doubt is crap.

Welcome to DU, jsanteramo :toast: Sorry.

Thanks for having faith in me! :grouphug:

I either hit the alert and let the mods deal with it or I take you to task by asking questions. :D

:pals:

I'm not going to attack anyone but I have to get this off my chest.

Doesn't it strike you as odd that a guy who posts this in one thread,

"I am just starting out at this, and I am not familiar with all of the right wing crap...that is why i am here, to learn!"

"Does that mean that because I am new at this, that I am dumb?"

"I am relatively new to the whole political forum/internet site thing-i came across it using a search engine. It annoyed me!"

"Sorry...never heard of "Newsmax" before...search engine!"

and posts this in another thread,

"I was a historian, and there is no way you can compare the two! Don't tell me to stop being sensitive. Compare Bush to someone else....no one deserves to be compared to Hitler!"

A historian? Who's new to political debate? Who's new to the internet? Unfamiliar with NewsMax?

People have a right to be skeptical sometimes. With that I'll stop now and apologize to everyone involved.

but I read about 50 of this person's posts and they were all supportive of Democrats and Kerry. That's all I am saying.

Peace.

Historians read books...I never really thought about current politics until recently...make sense now?

Apology accepted :+

accepting my heartfelt apology

Michael Harris

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Only a moron would believe that story.

#1, the Black Hawk down operation was an American plan to capture a Somali warlord who was interfering with food shipments and shooting at US soldiers. Clinton got word on his whereabouts and ordered the military to take him down. The military operation got screwed up, a Blackhawk got shot down and several US soldiers were killed.

How in the fuck does Bin Laden suddenly jump into the picture and get indicted? Was he on the phone with the Somali warlord who ordered the Somali warlord to attack and kill the US soldiers who were attacking and trying to kill or capture him?

It doesn't take much in the way of brains to figure out that OBL can hardly be responsible for 'Black Hawk down'.

It seems that way today.

A while ago I read that they plan to come out all at once. The nice thing is that they can't use facts to try to persuade us and facts are what it would take.

has already been going on. Unless I am missing something, everyone agreed that these terrorist groups meant harm to us, but everyone, current administration included, say the evidence was not strong enough, or direct enough to cause action. I see nothing with a massive impact in here. This is just smudge with no direct evidence of something to act upon.

The 9-11 findings have only said to me, that the Bush administration had the most conclusive evidence to go from. It even had the hind site of the past Clinton Administration, and his fathers administration and present intelligence to look to for information. Yet still failed to prevent 9-11 attacks, and has failed to get bin ladin.

Even if their is a grain of truth to this, just because someone is
told of problems, or the possibility of problems, or they spoke closely to or advised...does not create clear actionable intelligence. Is this not what the Republican part says now?

I trusted the Clinton administration to have handled it the way they thought was appropriate with what evidence they had. I can surely say he never bank rupted our country and made us so hated in the international world like this one has.

Remember, the huge debt and the countries demanding payment upon those debts when Clinton came to the WH., it was scarey.
We thanked George Senior for those.