What would the U.S. do if an enemy treated our POW's like this? (nt)

Far worse. In the case of Korea and Viet Nam, we didn't, nor couldn't, do squat. In Japan and Germany, we prosecuted.

during WW2...how do you think those people were treated?

who were interned, I have never seen any reports of mistreatment...have you?..

and there can be 'mistreatment' without it being 'torture'...though both are wrong...

the internment was wrong...sorta understanable under the circumstances, but wrong...I meant treatment afterwards

THEY WERE AMERICANS

sort of understandable: strong emotions, easily identifiable group, mostly located in one region, nearest to place of the attack...

we may as well face it, some icons of progressive politics were involved (FDR, Earl Warren)..it seemed justified to many at the time...not now...

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not everyone who disagrees with you is a troll...

edit : but what do we disagree on anyway? I think the internment was wrong...I just understand how it happened...

nt

Understandable and acceptable are not synonyms. You can understand actions that you deplore.

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pledging days, or Shrub's Skull and Bones initiation.

Shrub at next Correspondent's Dinner:

"I've been sexually humiliated while naked and blindfolded in prison, and I've raised twins. And believe you me, I'll take the sexual humiliation any day!"

(INSERT LAUGH TRACK HERE)

"I've got a million of 'em!"

you think those people in that mob are Left wing wacko's?


failure.

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They were and still are CRIMINALS all of them. Since this was 1930 most of them are dead. The only thing we can do to them is piss on their graves.

Maybe we can get some British Troops to do this, they seem to enjoy that.

As to the living criminals in nursing homes watching American Idol in Diapers-- lets recruit the 372nd Military Police Company to get together and sodomize these AARP members with toilet bowl handles.

On Edit: for the weak minded this post is SARCASTIC-- it is meant to illustrate the oxymoron that the MEANS somehow justifies the END

I bet it would. I guess that would explain the "Meat Grinder" status we are now seeing.

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Drifter

that that was all they did is take their clothes off and humiliate them. A few years of council ling and one could move on from that.

I would thank god they didn't beat them within and inch of their lives and then beat them again just for fun. I would hate to think they were being starved or being the six guy in Russian roulette

and humiliate themselves? Were they sent an engraved invitation on fine paper, which they then gratefully accepted? Apparently, you are not familiar with the US Army's own report on these incidents, which describes prisoners being burmned with chemicals, sodomized with broomsticks and chemical lights, and even killed and smuggled out into the desert, to have their bodies dumped. You must not have read about that Army report, right?

Here's a clue: Those Iraqi men would not have assumed those position unless they were under extreme duress, and the pressures exerted on them require some example to be credible. So what you are seeing is an effect, but you cannot account for the cause - no doubt because the cause would shake your very naive worldview to its crumbling and rotten foundations.

What's important is what Iraqis think.

There was an article in the Denver Post this AM, an interview with a former POW. He said he was jailed, beaten, hung from the ceiling with his hands tied behind his back, etc, for weeks under Saddam. He was stripped naked by Americans once for a few hours.

He says his treatment by Americans was far more inhumane than the beatings he got from Saddam.

Which type of torture YOU would prefer doesn't make any difference. What matters is how Iraqis, and Muslims worldwide, feel about it.

I don't think you've read the full account of these atrocities or seen all the photos, have you? Because if you had you would know that Iraqis died from severe beatings at Abu Ghrib from the hand of the U.S. military.

... this administration wouldn't give any ground whatsoever if it meant making concessions to their "enemies" - what does Bush care if a few peasants die? He's a "big picture" guy, remember?

...you would either stop to think before you posted, or just stopped posting altogether.

Edit:

Too graphic, even for me.

I wonder if that guy and his family would have rather had him stripped? Now that would be humiliating!

Sorry guys the stripping thing is very wrong and despicable, but nothing compared this

A German shepherd dog biting your testicles??

The stripping was the least of the abuses.

they have mutilated a bunch of our citizens.

You mean the prisoners our soldiers tortured were the same ones who mutilated the bodies of the "contractors"? Is it now ok to torture any Iraqi because of the actions of a few? If that's the case, is it now ok for Iraqi's to torture Americans because some american soldiers have tortured Iraqi's? :eyes:

...the four contractors were killed and mutilated after death.

Are those four guys the "bunch" you were talking about?

there's a big difference between mutilating a dead body and a live one.

As for the mutilation of killing our citizens, well, that's what happens in war, unfortunately; and make no mistake this is a war.

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stuff from our prisons here in the U.S. Hasn't been much outcry here at home when we are doing some of this to our own.

Our POWs from the first Gulf War were abused, humiliated, filmed on TV and one (known) was killed.

especially if we hold to a "higher standard."

& I guess our eventual response to that then was to invade ten years later, right?

I heard on the radio this morning that a lot of these prisoners had just been rounded up in general sweeps and turns out were not guilty of anything, by the way.

I could go on listing what is wrong about this treatment.....

but the "freedom fighters" and "insurgents" engage in much worse activity.

The point is not whether the insurgents and freedom fighters engage in worse activity. I certainly am not justifying the actions of them.

The point is whether the activity of torture that these U.S. soldier did is correct. It is not.

If the fact that the insurgents and freedom fighters engage in worse activity justified the behavior of the U.S. then you might as well say that the Israelis would be justified in gassing Germans because the Germans gassed Jews.