Exactly how much ground has the Left lost?

Forty years ago in the midst of the 1964 presidential election controversies like LBJ's doomsday daisy commercial, Barry Goldwater was being labeled an extremist, a hard rightwing extremist. I don't know if that strategy was responsible for LBJ's win that year, but I think it was contributory.

Fast Forward 40 years and when you gauge Goldwaters '64 style of conservativsm using a scale from today's neocon model, and it makes Goldwater look like today's John McCain.

These days I sort of miss the PaleoConservatives.

look like Dennis Kucinich!

> how much ground has the Left lost?

Almost all of it.
We've been pushed over the cliff and are hanging on by our fingernails.
So we've lost all but a couple of fingernails worth of ground.

I hope it will be enough.

says that people there and in south America have a general consensus that Americans are "rude fat and stupid"

unfortunately I (mostly) couldn't disagree..

We have become a selfish self absorbed frightened nation

How much that hurts to say I can't explain, but I deal with customers every day and for every thinking, concerned citizen I see 20 idiots with a cel phone stuck to their ear talking trash

Yeah, the conservatives of old seem like cuddly teddy bears next to this bunch.

'64 was a disaster for the Republicans. Goldwater only managed to win in his home state and a couple of southern states where desegregation was generally considered unbiblical.

However, look what's happened since. It may have seemed at the time as if the Republicans were all but finished as a party, but it was really just the beginning of what has amounted to nearly 40 years of Republican dominance in one way or another.

Before '64, going back to the New Deal, Democrats had mostly dominated. But now the tide is turning. I believe, and some of you may back me up on this, that the 2000 election was a disaster for the Democrats in much the same way that '64 was for the Republicans. Just look at what has happened since 2000. Look at DU. Democrats are leading the way IMHO using the internet as a political tool. We now have a liberal radio network that is growing by leaps and bounds (something I never thought I would live to see). I come from the South, but I can now hold my head high as a Democrat for the first time in my lifetime.

Even if we manage to lose this election, and that's a BIG if, the tide is turning and there aint no way anybody's gonna stop it. I believe this so much, that I'm willing to put it on the line here in this forum. After Bush, they've got nobody. But that's not even their biggest weakness.

The Republicans biggest weakness is that they have become arrogant, and because of this they think that liberals are so far against the ropes that we will never again be able inspire the people of this country to follow liberal ideas and find progressive solutions to our nation's challenges.

But they are wrong, folks. Things are already changing and will continue to do so. For the first time I can remember, tax refurm is now dead last on a polled list of national priorities. What's first? Healthcare reform is. Good grief, 30 years ago George McGovern ran for healthcare reform and got seriously thumped in the election for his trouble.

That's just one example, though. I find hope all around me these days. In 2000 we may have been hanging onto the cliff by merely a finger or two, but I think we've now managed to climb our way back up and are more ready for the future than ever, or at least more ready that I can ever remember.

hated the new republicans he had nothing good to say about them. yes,goldwater would be today`s john mc cain. john anderson would be john kerry today...