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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 11:45 AM Original message |
I oppose the draft for Iraq, but I support the draft in principle. |
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Killarney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yes |
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Christ was Socialist (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 02:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
39. Out of all the countries you chose canada LOL <nt> |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
2. It depends on what the purpose of the Army is |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. It's not a training ground for citizenship. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 11:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. OK |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 12:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Americorps is a citizens school. |
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GirlinContempt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 12:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. A requirement? |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
4. No, the draft is Hitlerian and Stallinist |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. a volunteer military is the ultimate democratic check on the Govt |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. This is assuming that the people are pacifist at heart. |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 01:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. but what if there's no "other people" to send? |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 01:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. People in need will show up to enlist. |
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Zero Gravitas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
5. Draft them all |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
7. Not sure if I agree with the principle. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 12:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Drafts should only be necessary when the protocols of war are followed |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
8. The Draft is Unconstitutional |
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Nashyra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 12:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. I agree in principle |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 12:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. I don't care if they pay me $1Million, it's still involuntary servitude |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 12:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Is the portion of work you do to pay your taxes involuntary servitude? |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 01:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Payment of taxes is not servitude |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 01:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Congress also has the power to raise an army. |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Any law passed by congress is constitutional? Really? |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. A draft enacted by Congress is Constitutional. |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 02:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Segegration wasn't ruled unconstitutional until 1954 |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 02:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Yes, what you're saying does make sense. |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Can we agree on this? |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 02:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I agree with the way you're characterizing it. |
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mindfulNJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. amen |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. How can you have it both ways? |
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Nashyra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 12:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. What do you suggest we do if we are attacked in this country? |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 12:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. there'll be no shortage of volunteers if we're actually attacked |
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Nashyra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 12:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Involuntary Servitude |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 01:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. We can't preserve freedom by instituting slavery |
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gpandas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 01:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. wish i had your confidence about no shortage of volunteers n/t |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 01:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Get that weak stuff out of here, it is absurd |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. There is no draft now. How can they be held accountable? |
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Nashyra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. No I don't think it is Ok to send anyones kids to Iraq |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 12:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. I explained the principle in the first post. |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 01:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. You must come from a very detached point of view |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 01:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Do you believe that some wars are worth fighting? |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 03:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Yes, some wars are worth fighting |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 03:35 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. It woke up the politicians during Vietnam! |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 06:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Sure, all true |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
15. I also support the military and the right to wage war "in principle" |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
36. I agree. More people should feel like they have a stake in what |
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Christ was Socialist (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
41. I can't believe we have draft supporters here this is what scares |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. I find it very frustrating to discuss this issue on DU |
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