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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 11:58 PM
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Refresher... "Massacre at Mazar"... 3000 allegedly murdered w/ US knowledg
Thanks to 'puggles' for making me aware of this video/documentary. This needs to be looked into AGAIN, along with all the atrocities in Iraq.


The documentary (52MB, 17 minutes)


Related articles...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,736307,00.html

    New film accuses US of war crimes

    Kate Connolly in Berlin and Rory McCarthy in Islamabad
    Thursday June 13, 2002
    The Guardian

    A former chairman of Amnesty International yesterday called for an independent investigation into claims that US troops tortured Taliban prisoners and assisted in the disappearance of thousands of others in the war in Afghanistan.

    Andrew McEntee said that "very credible evidence" in a British documentary film needed to be investigated. He was speaking after the first showing in Berlin of the film, Massacre at Mazar.

    "This film raises questions that will not go away," said Mr McEntee, who led Amnesty International UK in the 1990s and is now an international human rights lawyer.




http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=13540

    Doran's film – and the allegations of mass killings – has received extensive media coverage in Europe, but is getting little attention in the U.S. The lack of reaction, says Doran, puts the safety of the graves in jeopardy with each passing day.

    The U.S. military is denying any knowledge of or involvement in a massacre.

    A Pentagon official was quoted by the Guardian (U.K.) as saying that "the U.S. Central Command looked into it a few months ago, when allegations first surfaced when there were graves discovered in the area of Sherberghan prison. They looked into it and did not substantiate any knowledge, presence or participation of U.S. service members." Pentagon spokesman Marine Corps Lt. Col. Dave Lapan told reporters that he considered the allegations of torture to be "highly suspect."




http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/jun2002/dora-j17.shtml

    Interview with Jamie Doran, director of Massacre at Mazar
    By Stefan Steinberg
    17 June 2002

    ...

    WSWS: In your opinion, in such an operation involving the transportation and elimination of up to 3,000 people, is it possible that the American troops did not have knowledge or give their consent?

    JD: You want my opinion? My answer is no. One hundred and fifty Americans soldiers were present at Sheberghan prison. That does not include CIA personnel. In my opinion, it would be highly unlikely that they could remain unaware of something taking place of such magnitude.

    WSWS: In your opinion, how high up in the US army chain of command does complicity in these events extend?

    JD: I repeat. When you have 150 American soldiers and a number of CIA personnel in the vicinity of Sheberghan prison, it would be extremely strange if they did not have knowledge of these atrocities taking place.


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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 12:21 AM
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1. worldlink tv
had an hour program last year on the deaths of prisoners and the story and eye witness to the "cargo container"..
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 12:40 AM
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3. Haven't heard of "worldlink tv" n/t
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supercrash Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:09 AM
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5. Yup
I saw the worldlink show

'Convoy of death'

I will not be disturbed in the least when the next 9-11 comes

We deserve it ten fold, sorry guys, but we will reap what we sow, and I find comfort in that thought
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:07 PM
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13. Convoy of Death
Someone pointed me to this info over at Information Clearing House...


Ugh.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 12:33 AM
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2. Thanks for posting
There's no telling how deep the rabbit hole goes.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:02 AM
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4. Very welcome
It makes me wonder what other atrocities have been hidden or glossed-over.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 10:38 AM
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6. I saw the video last year. It is an important piece of film.
Should be required viewing for everyone!
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 12:38 PM
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7. Agreed. It's bugging the he__ out of me
It's bugging the he__ out of me that the Iraqi abuse issues haven't yet brought this issue back to the fore.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 12:40 PM
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8. But this is Afghanistan, not Iraq!
People who watch this documentary are helping Osama!
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:21 PM
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9. Chuckle.
And don't think for one second that John Poindexter's Total Information Awareness system isn't logging every IP address checking out all those pro-terrorist videos.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:23 PM
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10. Prison riot that killed Spann and found Walker....
What about that!

A Prison Riot....where CIA operatives U.S. military were present.

What went down there...? I am sure the prisoners rioted for a better movie on saturday night....
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:27 PM
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12. The prison riot is briefly mentioned in the video
The video only briefly mentions that prison riot, referring to the many prisoners found shot with their hands still bound behind their backs. (It's awfully hard to be part of an uprising with your hands bound -- unless you're the Black Knight.)
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:24 PM
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11. Thankyou. I posted about this film yesterday
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