For me, finally, echoes of Watergate...Iraq torture is tipping point

I think the Iraq prison torture story is the tipping point. All the other scandals and investigations have been part of the drip, drip, drip...no WMDs, Chalabi, Medicare, Valerie Plame, stealing computer records off the Dem's computers, shorting our soldiers of needed equipment, the mounting death toll in Iraq, and on and on. And then there are the dirty tricks and the bullying and the secrecy--Cheney's records, implied and explicit threats about patriotism, even Olbermann's talking points, and on and on.

But this Iraq torture story has it all, and it seems to be something the press can actually wrap its little mind around. This morning, miraculously, they are talking about the fact that Bush probably knew about the prison abuse months ago. CNN reported that Bush said he found out when he saw the images on television, but Woodruff added that the Pentagon said that they had informed the White House in January (I think that was the month).

The secrecy and the ineptitude of the White House are finally making this house of cards collapse. Even the Republicans are furious that they were kept in the dark. So it doesn't seem over the top when Joe Biden calls for Rumsfeld's resignation. It feels like an implosion is about to happen.

And, on top of everything else, the smears about Kerry are dwarfed by this, and I doubt will resurface. In fact, it makes W and his henchmen (and women) look far worse. Petty and vindictive and small. Like Nixon.

Although, I have to say, I never hated Nixon like I hate Bush. We'll know it's finally over when the idiot press stops referring to W. as likable.

Anyone else who lived through Watergate? Any thoughts?

it was the first time American's idealism of a perfect and just president was laid to rest.

What Bush has done is far, far worse. I guess what I'm talking about is the public's growing awareness and the media's increasing willingness to cover the story--and, hopefully, go beyond the surface reporting they've done so far.

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Please feel free to spend time in the Lounce for a :beer: or two.

or the other on either side over the next six months. The Dems jump and high five when we see what surely "this time" will take him down. The repukes cook up a line of crap that they can feed themselves to keep themselves deluded and will march to the sounds of "Onward Christian Soldiers" right to that ballot box and vote again for him. His people think (literally) the soliders should get medals for this. If anything bothers them, it's that Bush has to choke out an apology but hey, that's better than putting an evildoer Dem in the WH, you know!!! There is one group that could be tipped---it's GI's and vets who still overwhelmingly support Bush BUT it has to be on some other issue. They laugh at this one. It has to be from GI's in Iraq starting to get out the message of what a stupid, hopeless mess the place is (and I'm sure that Bush is going to make sure they get all the free air time they want to do that...).

And with Joe Wilson all over the media right now - it's perfect timing.
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he's the commander in chief, he knows what his troops are doing, he told them to do it. and if he actually DIDN'T know, then he is a lousy impotent ccic

At least Watergate simply involved our dirty little political landscape here at home. What's a few dirty tricks between old friends compared to starting an illegal war using phony information? Althought Nixon had his "Enemies List," however ominous that sounded nobody got killed for being on it (but did get tailed).

IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME something is sticking in the public debate about the rottenness of this administration.