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jsanteramo Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:44 PM
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the Freepers are at it again
I apologize for having to be the bearer of bad news, but i saw something on FR that made me sick to my stomach.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1130373/posts

I am appalled. This is over the top! Let me know your thoughts! Personally, I think this is the crudest thing FR has done. They crossed the line!
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:45 PM
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1. Uh, that's bad too.
What's the matter with you?
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jsanteramo Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:47 PM
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3. I thought it was disgusting
I was looking for a laugh on FR...before I had to hop into the shower...unfortunately, I was sick to my stomach. How dare they!
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:52 PM
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13. Just to leave no room for interpretation.
Edited on Wed May-05-04 09:14 PM by LoZoccolo
I wasn't saying the FReepers were disgusting, I was saying the torture was disgusting too.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:15 PM
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31. how dare they what?
why are we supposed to care what lies the freepers tell?
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:15 PM
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30. I have never seen any of those pics..
When did it happen? It didn't hear the torture/castration etc mentioned at all...and I watch every news channel EVERY NIGHT. When was this?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:21 PM
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36. Over a year ago.
Even before "mission accomplished".
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:47 PM
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2. MY THOUGHT IS THIS....
QUIT POLLUTING YOUR BRAIN AND OUR MESSAGE BOARD WITH THIS FREE REPUBLIC SHIT...whatever it happens to be at this hour. You guys sure do spend a lot of time there and effort in bringing it back here.

Just stop that. :nuke:
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:48 PM
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4. Yup!. . .eom
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jsanteramo Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:48 PM
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5. I think we need to let them know that they crossed the line
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:50 PM
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:01 PM
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20. All I have to say to that is
:eyes:
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:49 PM
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6. I refuse to play.
Seriously. This internet tit-for-tat about DU and FR is a dead end for me. Interesting for a nano second, but after that, eh!

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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:49 PM
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7. Whats this? they are posting pictures of their annual
Frat party?
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:49 PM
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8. This doesn't surprise me at all
Sickens me, yes, but doesn't surprise me. It doesn't make our abuse right to see that we have also been victims, but Freepers are so determined to avoid any criticism of the pResident or his minions for anything that they are even willing to condone torture. Ugh.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:50 PM
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9. But the Iraqis *can't* apologize for all those pics
The Iraqis *can't* apologize for all those pics...

'cause it was Al Qaeda and foreign terrorists, right? I mean, the Iraqis are all behind us, and it's just the foreign terrorists that hate freedom that are attacking us.

(It appears that the Freepers have forgotten that we're supposed to live up to OUR standards, not adjust down to a lower standard.)

Silly Fweepers.
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jsanteramo Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:52 PM
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12. Agreed
:puke:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:22 PM
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37. DUH
:think:
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:53 PM
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15. Doesn't Matter---"Two Wrongs still doesn't make it Right"
Edited on Wed May-05-04 08:57 PM by vadem0557
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:54 PM
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16. I see a bunch of dead Americans who should be enjoying their lives here.
But no, Bush starts a war for his own personal gain and these poor guys are dead in a foreign land that doesn't want them there. I agree with the Freeps on one thing, they should show these images on American TV, the people will turn on Chimpy so fast his head will spin. Killing your enemy in battle is quite different than torturing defenseless POWs. Of course, they don't get that.
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jsanteramo Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:58 PM
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19. Agreed
Bring our boys home! Peace!
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:57 PM
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17. One small difference. Our soldiers wouldn't be dead if they weren't there
Great moments in circular reasoning.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:57 PM
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18. So...
Edited on Wed May-05-04 08:58 PM by wroberts189

Because a few Iraqi people did something bad its ok to torture and kill them all?

Hope no one ever applies that standard to us.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:22 PM
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38. That's what I'm especially afraid of as
far as any American hostages or POW'S in Iraq are concerned, this just makes it all the worse for them.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:01 PM
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21. apples and oranges
i think we could equally pull out pictures of dead babies.

but, look at the hostage pictures. do you see in hostage situation our americans being abuse. not in the past, maybe in the future

further. it is all disgusting............this is what war is
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:02 PM
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22. Two wrongs = Right!
And didn't the POW's who were there say they weren't tortured?
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:08 PM
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23. Well at least they didn't force them to masturbate into eachother's mouths
open mouths...that is some of the wierdest fucking shit I've ever heard...

Anyways, those deaths happened during the actual war, no? Do we even know how those US soldiers were killed?
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:36 PM
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41. They were killed in combat
Edited on Wed May-05-04 09:39 PM by crunchyfrog
during the initial invasion. Those are the pictures that were shown on Al Jazeera.

I'm sorry, it's sad that they died, but there is nothing criminal about soldiers being killed in combat during a war. Especially when we're the ones who started the war.

I especially don't think they owe us an apology considering that during the invasion, hundreds of Iraqis, both soldiers and civilians, died for every one American soldier who died.

I think we were mainly upset that their pictures were actually being shown on Arab television. Nobody was supposed to see any pictures of dead Americans since it made chimpy's war look bad.

Also there was some made up propoganda that these were prisoners who had been executed, which is highly unlikely because the soldiers who survived that particular combat incident were actually taken as POW's and were treated a hell of alot better than we've been treating the Iraqi prisoners.

Anybody who thinks that Iraqi detainees deserve to be tortured because of some American soldiers getting killed in combat during a war is just plain nuts. I appreciate getting the reaffirmation that freepers are just plain nuts, although at this point I think the information is superfluous.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:39 PM
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42. That's the way I remember it too
Edited on Wed May-05-04 09:39 PM by rumguy
The complaint was that they showed the bodies on TV...

It's apples and oranges, but the freeptards have distract their feeble minds from reality somehow.
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jsanteramo Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:10 PM
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25. Please don't point fingers!
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Angelus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:12 PM
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26. I wasn't point any fingers to anyone.
I was just cautioning everyone about that...that's all.
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jsanteramo Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:13 PM
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27. Okay....thanks for the heads up
I apologize for being rash. Sorry!
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Angelus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:15 PM
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32. You're a bit jumpy, aren't you?
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jsanteramo Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:16 PM
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33. I get defensive...started when I was young
Sorry :)
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jsanteramo Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:15 PM
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29. They are being cute with us, I see
o: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Hehehe... looks like I managed to get the paranoid idiots to eat one of their own again (DU) LOL!!!
81 posted on 05/05/2004 10:14:04 PM EDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:29 PM
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the Kelly Gang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:18 PM
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34. that could be prevented by the US leaving Iraq..they don't seem to
comprehend that
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jsanteramo Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:18 PM
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35. Exactly
We need to get out of there!
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:23 PM
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39. Sorry but they're dead. Their suffering was over.
can't say the same about the abused prisoners.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:41 PM
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43. Any and all freeptards reading this post
I have one thing to say to you: Fuck you!

You are all like your hero Shrub, a bunch of physical cowards...puny, pathetic sorry excuses for human beings!

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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:48 PM
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44. I don't see what the fuss is all about.
Those are pictures that were shown on Al Jazeera of some U.S. soldiers who were killed in a particular combat incident during the initial invasion phase of the war. They have been seen many places on the web.

I've seen many more pictures of dead Iraqis, mostly civilians, often women and children.

They're just doing what they always do. Trying to justify the unjustifiable. In this case they appear to be suggesting that soldiers being killed in combat-something that happens in wars-somehow justifies the violation of international law through the torture and humiliation of prisoners being kept by an occupying power.

The sad thing is that those pictures and reports of prisoner abuse are most likely to lead to even more soldiers dying.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:52 PM
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45. I think we can admit that desecrating dead American bodies is horrifying
Edited on Wed May-05-04 09:52 PM by WilliamPitt
I think we can admit that the men shown doing this are scum.

I think we can also admit that torture is horrifying.

I think we can also admit that having private mercs running US soldiers is horrifying.

I think we can admit that having US soldiers anywhere near the moral level of men who would desecrate human remains is horrifying.

That's where we are, and that's the point. "They did it too!!" is no fucking defense. We're supposed to be better, and we're not, and that's the most horrifying thing of all.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:54 PM
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46. I don't visit Free Republic....
especially not to read about something that made someone sick to their stomach. But that's just me.
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