What's really sick about the torture tapes....

is that stuff far worse happens every day in US prisons. Don't believe me? None of the Iraqi abuse victims received body cavity searches, from what I've heard....and they're SOP here.

I just read a story about how prisoners on good behavior get plasma tv screens now. That doesn't sound like torture to me. I don't think our US prisoners go through what the Iraqi prisoners have experienced. Atleast not by the guards anyway...

If you've ever worked intake, you'd know what I'm talking about.

That was in ONE prison BTW.

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as well as other prisons in the M.E... They claim "gray area" regarding international law whenever possible. Any benefit of the doubt is now gone.

Don't always believe everything you hear.

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For one only a doctor can perform a body cavity search! Please get your facts straight before posting.

And in case your wondering I have 15 years experience in the Florida Dept of corrections.

and Fast Food Managers

seen it done several THOUSAND times when working in the system.

hell, here we have a problem getting doctors to see inmate patients if they're bleeding to death...

They look up your ass while you spread you cheeks and they make you lift up your balls.

They have to have a special case for a strip search.

I been incarcerated and it's not SOP.

However, there are abuses going on in the US prison system...no doubt about that.

what security level were you in? Prisoner treatement varies greatly depending on where you are. In a county lock-up, you'll generally be treated much better than in a max or supermax. I worked in a supermax. It's routine.

There needs to be an inquiry As to why this is happening. Ifs it happening at all.

take yer pick.

Hell, in at least one of these jurisdictions, body cavity searches are required for female VISITORS of inmates if the visitation is non-segregated. True, it's voluntary, and the DOC personnel used are women, but if they want a contact visit, they have to submit to the search. If they don't agree to submit to it, they can only have a segregated non-contact visitation.

Also, in one of these jurisdictions we had a case where an executed inmate was found to have had a loaded revolver in his cell ON DEATH ROW, concealed in his typewriter. It wasn't discovered until after his execution when his effects were being catalogued. No shit. Heads rolled over that one.

I worked for eight years in an adult male felon institution in NC. While I looked at a lot of assholes (literally) in strip searches, I only saw one incident where an actual body cavity search was conducted on the suspicion (correct) that an inmate had contraband "suitcased".

Read the Taguba report, it's online...

What happened in Iraq was deliberate sexual sadism and humiliation...

My points are:

a cop in NY sodomized a guy in a bathroom with a broomstick, rupturing his intestines.

Three cops shot a guy 41 times for reaching for his ID.

Body cavity searches are routine in the US penal system, to the point that they have written procedures for how they are to be conducted.

Privacy in a shower in a US prison? Yeah, right.

In another case, prison guards routinely scheduled fights between inmates of rival gang members so that they could watch via CCTV.

How many cases of rape have there been in US prisons? How many female prisoners have been impregnated by their male guards?

Sexual sadism and humiliation? Take a tour of a max or supermax prison in the US, and then tell me that what happened there was worse than what happens here.

Like the Stanford Prison Experiment.

Human behavior. 60% of people who are given power end up going power-mad.

I guess we're the 40%?

http://www.wgoeshome.com

Rape Crisis in U.S. Prisons


New York, April 19, 2001) A ground-breaking new report by Human Rights Watch, No Escape: Male Rape in U.S. Prisons, charges that state authorities are responsible for widespread prisoner-on-prisoner sexual abuse in U.S. men's prisons. The 378-page report is based on more than three years of research and is the first national survey of prisoner-on-prisoner rape. There are some two million inmates in U.S. prisons and jails.

http://www.hrw.org/press/2001/04/usrape0419.htm

And case histories here:

A Florida prisoner whom we will identify only as P.R. was beaten, suffered a serious eye injury, and assaulted by an inmate armed with a knife, all due to his refusal to submit to anal sex.
After six months of repeated threats and attacks by other inmates, at the end of his emotional endurance, he tried to commit suicide by slashing his wrists with a razor. In a letter to Human Rights Watch, he chronicled his unsuccessful efforts to induce prison authorities to protect him from abuse. Summing up these experiences, he wrote: "The opposite of compassion is not hatred, it's indifference."

Human Rights Watch undertook three years of research to expose the problem of male rape in U.S. prisons. The resulting 378-page report is based on information from over 200 prisoners spread among thirty-four states, some of whom were interviewed personally, as well as an exhaustive survey of state prison authorities.

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/

a cavity search with probable cause and forcing people at gun point to perform oral/anal sex, electrocutions, beatings, dog attacks, and molesting chiildren.

It seems like you're trying to trivialize torture and rape.

just pointing out how fucked up the system is here.