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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:14 AM
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Warning to DU-Moveon.org and Truth Uncovered Movie
Edited on Thu May-06-04 01:15 AM by BeHereNow
Dear DU Family,
I want to warn you of a a scam linked to the MoveOn web site.
Nearly six months ago, I ordered 4 DVD copies of the
Truth Uncovered movie from the link provided on the Move On
web site. My credit card was billed and I eagerly awaited
the delivery.
WELL...several pleading emails later, an offer to pick the
fucking order up myself, despite the fact that I was also
charged delivery costs, STILL NO DELIVERY- NO REPLY.
I think the company is involved in internet fraud and I
will be suspect of the MoveOn gang forever more for
providing them customers by adverstising their link
on their web site.
I have written to Move On and told them of the situation.
We'll see if they continue to direct unsuspecting consumers
to their site to buy a movie that never arrives.

I am SO pissed off-
AS if the crooks in the White House were not enough
for us to deal with?
We have to chase down crooks among us as well?

I am filing a complaint against them both for internet fraud.
In the meantime- be warned-
DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT SEND MONEY TO
UNCOVEREDMOVIE@aol.com
They are obviously ripping unsuspecting visitors to MoveOn off.
HOW CAN MoveON not KNOW about this?
Are they getting a kickback from the rip-off?
What do you'all think I should do?
I want to go after the bastards...
I am PISSED OFF!
BHN
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:16 AM
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1. I would doubt MoveOn is aware of it
Can you reverse the charges through your credit card company? They would be the best way to deal with it. Let them go after them.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:45 AM
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9. I will call tomorrow and find out
if the charges can be reversed-
it has been nearly six months now.
I have save every email I sent them and two
lame replies from them, the last in FEBRUARY,
which promised delivery in a "few days."
NOT!
Callin' you tomorrow-
heard back tonight about the event we discussed...
BHN
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:17 AM
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2. Inform moveon and wait for them to tell you
after that, if no satisfaction challenge the charge with yoru credit card and file with the BBB
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:18 AM
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3. Thanks for the warning
Being ripped off is bad enough, but when it comes from the "movement", it feels even worse.

Please check your PM box....

Kanary
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:19 AM
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4. I received my copy very quickly ...
... just can't remember where I ordered it from :shrug:
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:21 AM
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5. Your out of line blaming MoveOn.
I ordered the movie from MoveOn and received it in a timely manner.

MoveOn doesn't use aol.com addresses.

Can you provide a link to where the aol address appears
on the MoveOn website?

Was your credit card billed by MoveOn or some other party.

If it was MoveOn then take it up with them.

If not the you got suckered and should contact your
state attorney general and the postal fraud division
of the FBI.

Good luck.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:40 AM
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8. Go to:
http://www.moveon.org
The link to the Truth Uncovered movie
is near the bottom of their main page.
And yes, I will pursue the matter.
I have the billing statement form my credit card
company for the DVDs that NEVER arrived.
What really pisses me off is that I ordered several copies
intended as gifts to be given on dates that are LONG
gone by.
BHN
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:53 AM
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11. I sorry to hear that...
I received my movies from these people.

I will forward this thread to them and MoveOn
maybe we can get them to make good on the order
or refund the money.

The movie is certainly very good and it sucks
that this is spoiling it for you.

Good luck.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 02:04 AM
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14. Thanks for being so sweet-
Edited on Thu May-06-04 02:23 AM by BeHereNow
Sorry to rant, but I am really pissed off at the
whole deal, and I can't help but wonder how many
others have been duped by them...
BHN
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 02:09 AM
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16. I'm hoping that some reason exists...
other than the worse case one.

I know that manufacturing can get tied up or
subcontractors can fail to perform but they
should still communicate and make it right.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 02:15 AM
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17. That is all I ever asked...
SOME communication as to what the hell was going on,
or a refund!
SO simple.
For them to not respond is FUCKED up, and can only
leave me with one conclusion- I've been had.
I was extremely polite in all of my email correspondence
to them, but that is over- I plan to send the big boys in now.
We are stolen from daily by our so called government-
I really don't need to be ripped off by so-called "libruls" too.
BHN
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:48 AM
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10. MoveOn does not sell the movie-
They list a link for the people who pretend to.
Therefore, I see them as complicit in the fraud.
Would you direct visitors to your web site to
another site you knew was stealing money from people?

BHN
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:55 AM
Response to Reply #10
12. Have you got any...
response from the people at truthuncovered.com?

Or has it just been radio silence?
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:59 AM
Response to Reply #12
13. I have sent them several pleading letters-
Last response from them was in FEBRUARY,
Hell, I offered to pick my order up!
NO reply or word since February.
Truly, it sucks.
BHN
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 02:06 AM
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15. I just send an email pointing to ...
this thread to info@moveon.org and the aol address for the movie.

Asking what the problem is.

If I get any answer I will post it on this thread.

Good luck I hope this is just a paper work error
because that movie is very valuable at reminding
people of the bullshit that Bush trick the country
in to this abject hellhole of a war with.


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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:28 AM
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6. Same happened to me...
I don't know if it's a rip-off or not, but please keep us posted.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:35 AM
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7. NO SHIT?
Edited on Thu May-06-04 01:36 AM by BeHereNow
How long ago did you get ripped off by them?
We should not let it go-
I emailed Moveon and told them I really doubted
that this was the first complaint about them...
(Truth Uncovered movie folks, that is)
you should do the same!
http://www.moveon.org/feedback/
Also, I went to the uncovered movie site and noticed
they have FINALLT published a phone number-
I am going to call them tomorrow for SURE!
SO should you-
(310) 204-2581
I wonder how many others they have bilked?
BHN
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Egalitarian Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 02:40 AM
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18. I got my copy ASAP
It doesn't ring a bell that it had anything to do with AOL. The site listed on the back of my DVD is www.truthuncovered.com. I seem to recall that it was an outfit from NC that shipped it to me. But, I did order it from a link at moveon.org sometime last fall/early winter I think. PM me if you'd like me to put my hands on who actually charged my credit card.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 02:54 AM
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19. I received my copy in a very timely manner. n/t
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:55 AM
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20. I got mine no problem
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:05 AM
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21. I received mine after about 6 weeks
But I was annoyed at the lag. I think they're back-ordered or something.
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