So some Wing Nut on NPR blames the mess on Clinton's Army!

<chuckle> Didn't catch his name but pretty much said we wouldn't be in this mess if the Army wasn't so undersized. Yah Sure.. I betcha a Heineken this same WingNut was singing praise about the Army as it smoked the Taliban and when Commander Cod Piece was smirking Mission Accomplished in Iraq..

BTW: That's the Irony that these numnuts don't get... Clinton's Army cruised through their initial mission, Dubya's management fucked it up after.

since it was his idea not to ask for more troops.

some stooge from the Washington Times.

They won't admit it, but that's an exactly fair summation; Bush and Rumsfelds mismanagement screwed up Clinton's well oiled machine.

I think Rumsfeld will take the fall on this one though--they are setting that up I think.

Bryant
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Well, if it was "Clinton's army", it was Bush's war. They must have been pretty satisfied with "Clinton's army" to send them to Iraq or...did they just screw up again. No way they can win this argument!

Any time that something goes wrong...........poof, clinton's fault. YOu could set your watch by it.

they did not mention, to set the record straight, that Rumsfeld vociferously opposed the arguments by career military that Iraq would require larger numbers of troops.

Rumsfeld dissed Shinseki and others on this issue, denying that they'd need more numbers...

So of course, as usual when the right fucks up they blame Clinton.

Pathetic

if we werent in two country try to build democracy's

it is all relative

You have been suckered in. If Bush fires Rumsfeid he will have to replace him. A new choice will face Senate hearings. There is bi-partian support for questions about the debacle. It would be a fun resignation to watch but it will not happen.

There is no purity or morality in politics. When you hear otherwise,run away. Politics is war without bloodshed,when it doesn't work. When it does work good things happen. Choose with wisdom.

Himmelfarb from the Washington Times. At least he openly identified himself as right-wing during the interview.

The good thing about this is that the more they blame Clinton the worse they look. Everyone knows Rumsfeld came in with all these ideas about revolutionizing the military and making it "light and lean," and now his "light and lean" army is getting jerked around all over central Asia. Of course, his base is composed exclusively of people who would rather die than change their minds, so they have to keep coming up with bullshit justifications, and this is one of them.

It's sad, really,

The Plaid Adder

Standing military personnel do not yield as much profit as ABM systems research/deployment or military outsourcing.

Guess this article slipped by the memory hole.

"Reduction Plan faces wide opposition"

THE WASHINGTON TIMES
August 13, 2001

"When Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld convened a high-level Pentagon meeting Aug. 4, the goal was to win a consensus from the nation's highest military officers on cutting the U.S. military in exchange for requiring it to do less."

"But what Mr. Rumsfeld found that Saturday was the civilian secretaries and four-star officers standing shoulder to shoulder. They voiced opposition to reducing a force already shriveled since the Cold War by a million active duty troops, to 1.37 million."

. . .

"We thought this administration is about strengthening the military, not cutting it to reach a number for the Office of Management and Budget," said Jayson Spiegel, executive director of the Reserve Officers Association of the United States and a deputy assistant Army secretary during the Clinton administration.

http://www.restoringamerica.org/archive/veterans/reduction_opposition.html

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"Downsizing of military now unlikely"

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Saturday, September 1, 2001

"After months of speculation that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld would order the military to get smaller, it now appears he will look elsewhere for savings to pay for missile defense and other investments aimed at remaking the military for the 21st century."

"In interviews this week, military leaders and defense analysts said they believe any force cuts that emerge from Rumsfeld's comprehensive review of the military -- due to be finished by late September -- will be modest."

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/37341_military01.shtml