My personal reaction to the photos of the torture.

Rainbowreflect

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Fri May-07-04 09:39 AM
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My personal reaction to the photos of the torture.

I was disgusted & sickened, of course. But what really blew me away was my total lack of surprise. Even a few years ago I would have been shocked that our troops would do something like this. Now, no surprise at all. I'm trying to figure out how much of that is my becoming cynical and how much is how this country has changed.

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Jacobin

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Fri May-07-04 09:40 AM
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1. Do you remember My Lai?

I do.

No sex, but lots of death of women and babies.

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Rainbowreflect

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Fri May-07-04 09:44 AM
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7. I was very young at the time.

Really didn't learn what was going on until much later.

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derby378

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Fri May-07-04 09:43 AM
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2. Maybe a little of both

Part of the blame goes to Bush - an unelected President who declared he had a "mandate" for America even though Gore got more popular and electoral votes. Bush has treated America with what I consider a genteel disregard, so it's no surprise to me that our military has started treating its captives with greater impunity.

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skooooo

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Fri May-07-04 09:43 AM
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3. Has the country "changed"...?

Good question..changed from WHAT exactly, though??

These kinds of things have happened many, many times before in America.

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rebellious woman

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Fri May-07-04 09:44 AM
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4. Desert Storm remember the "highway of death"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War Nothing a
bush presidency surprises me..Leeches sucking the
blood out of humanity.

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mopaul

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Fri May-07-04 09:44 AM
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5. now do the same with 9-11, if you haven't already

lack of surpise that is. some are still struggling with the whole premise that the bushco PNAC folks may have had something to do with it.

but your reaction is a real thing, i felt no surprise either.
it's like that one DU'er with the handle, 'nothingshocksmeanymore'

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RandomKoolzip

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Fri May-07-04 09:44 AM
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6. Having read about the CIA and the School of the Americas....

long before this happened, I was NOT shocked. One of the supervisors (seen in a pic from the prison sitting on the head of an Iraqi prisoner trapped between two stretchers) of the Abu Gharib prison wrote to his parents before the scandal broke about how HIS higher ups (who he called "military intelligence") approved of the torture.

If you don't think this kind of shit has happened many times before, at the hands of Americans, you're in denial. War brings out the best in people, after all....the only difference is that somebody had a camera this time.

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the Kelly Gang

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Fri May-07-04 09:46 AM
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8. I have to agree. Not only did I think it was probably happening

my real surprise is that the photos have surfaced and have gained the atention they did.

And I 've only thought like that in the past 2 years.

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livetohike

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Fri May-07-04 09:53 AM
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9. Now for the questions -

What did Bush know and when did he know it?

More than likely, he approved of this with a "whatever it takes" attitude.

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