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plurality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 04:27 PM
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Is Iraq 'pneumonia' a result of attempted WMD plant?
http://www.gulfwarvets.com/news13.htm

Contrary to the “pneumonia” and “mystery illness” labels, enlightening information surfaced today on “THE POWER HOUR” radio show (www.thepowerhour.com) in an interview with Mark Neusche, father of Josh Neusche, one of the GW II troops to lose his life from the “mystery illness” while serving in Iraq. The father stated that his 20-year-old healthy son, a former track star and non-smoker, had written home on June 26th explaining that he would be going on a 30-hour “hauling” mission, but that he could not disclose what they would be hauling. The son had stated that he had been to the Palace of Sadaam Hussein, and it was later learned that he was “hauling” at the Baghdad Airport.

Marsha Paxson also appeared on the show, as she is the journalist who broke the U.S. story for the Lake Sun Leader (www.lakesunleader.com). Although the “facts” behind this story are continually changing, Ms. Paxson is one of the few journalists who is remaining true to the facts of the original story. Ms. Paxson revealed in her articles that the father reported that his son was not the only ill soldier. Neusche stated that while his son was in a coma at Landstuhl Hospital, the father overheard the nurses say that they were expecting numerous sick troops to be brought in all at one time. In fact, the father actually witnessed approximately 55 other troops being received by the hospital after they were transported by a military ambulance (bus). According to the father, the transported troops were exhibiting varying degrees of the illness. Some walked, some were in wheelchairs and others were on respirators. In the commotion, a doctor reported to the father that his son was suffering from a “toxin.” No mention of pneumonia was ever made to him, nor was it ever reported in the medical record.

Paxson and the AGWVA now question the diagnosis, the actual number of troops that were reported ill, and when the DOD first became aware of this incident.

One of the most surprising statements to come from The Power Hour interview conducted on “The Genesis Network” was that while the son, Josh Neusche, was a healthy young soldier on June 26, 2003, when he reported that he was going to serve on the secret hauling mission, by July 1, 2003, he was in a coma, and that day was suddenly classified by the military, as medically retired from the Army without Josh or his family’s consent. Josh did not die until July 12, 2003. Among other problems that this new classification created was that the DOD was no longer obligated to assist the family in getting to Germany to be with their son as he lay in a coma. Because the DOD would not provide even so much as plane or taxi fare for the Neusche family, all 650 members of the 203 Engineer Battalion each contributed $10.00 to make the family’s final visit possible.


This seems real shady to me. The argument could be made that they were exposed to Saddam's WMD, but if that were the case, why hasn't FOXNews been blasting it all over the place?
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 04:33 PM
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1. and they nickle-and-dimed this dead boy's status to save a few bucks?
:wtf:

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plurality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 04:36 PM
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2. all part of 'compassionate conservatism'
Plus he just bought it on a top secret WMD stash, so not worth all the pomp and circumstance like Jessica Lynch which can be turned into a recruitment movie, I mean Hollywood blockbuster.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 04:40 PM
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3. More
I hope Mr. Neusche obtains DNA testing of the specimens to ensure that they are from his son.

From the article at http://www.lakesunleader.com/display/inn_news/news2.txt:

Neusche says he and his wife are poised to ask civilian medical experts to test his son's blood and tissue samples taken at autopsy if the government releases a cause of death they don't agree with.

"We don't have a problem doing that with tissues taken before Josh died," Neusche said of samples currently being held at Walter Army Reed Medical Center. "His mother wants to avoid having his body exhumed. She just couldn't go through that. Watching them put him in the ground not knowing what killed him was hard enough."




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El Mariachi Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 04:49 PM
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4. intriguing
I hope there are follow-ups.
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TNDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 05:11 PM
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5. How many of those involved in the "hauling" are still alive?
Enough to get the truth?
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plurality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 05:28 PM
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7. hard to tell
because according to the family the 'hauling' incident is classified, so finding out how many soldiers were involved is impossible. But they did say there were hundreds of soldiers with the 'pneumonia' as opposed to the several the media has reported.
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iamtechus Donating Member (868 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 05:16 PM
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6. Depleted uranium
Are American soldiers in Iraq dying due to depleted uranium?

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/aug2003/du-a04.shtml

"The office of the US Army Surgeon General informed the media July 31 that teams of medical specialists have been dispatched to both Iraq and the Landstuhl military hospital in Germany to investigate why a pneumonia-like condition is striking down American military personnel who took part in the invasion of Iraq."

http://www.fcnp.com/322/whitehouse.htm

http://www.counterpunch.org/goff08062003.html

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plurality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 05:29 PM
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8. no one died from DU after Gulf War I
this smells like a different animal to me.
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 06:30 PM
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9. More likely cause....
.....forced vaccinations with a bad lot of vaccine! :(

US Navy, IMMUNIZATIONS page
Anthrax Vaccine Production Issues

<snip>
General Safety: General safety is determined in the following manner: two animals each of two species (mouse and guinea pig) are given doses of the vaccine and observed for 7 days for adverse effects. Each animal must survive the test period, gain weight, and show no adverse reaction. Three vials per lot will be tested for safety. General safety tests are required for lot release. Other safety studies have been performed that establish that anthrax vaccine adsorbed has a side-effect profile similar to that of other vaccines.

Potency: Potency is determined in the following manner: guinea pigs are vaccinated with one of several serial dilutions of vaccine or no vaccine (control group). All guinea pigs are injected with known amounts of virulent anthrax 14 days after vaccination, and average time to death is calculated for each group. The test vaccine must be no less potent than the FDA’s reference vaccine.

Gee, makes me want to run right out and get my shot! ( NOT! )
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