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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:43 PM
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WORSE photos and videos to come
says lindsey graham and rummy
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:49 PM
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1. Butchers
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:57 PM
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2. What is the ratio of female to male soldiers and contractors involved?
And what is the ratio of frequency of photo shots that include the female?

If there are more photos to come, I'm going to notice the ratio of m to f and the number of times the female is included.

It may be that England is the only female involved, but are the female photos less or more horrible?

Does showing the female so frequently tell it like it was or does it help deflect from the men in these acts? If the latter, then what are the reasons for deflecting from the male?
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:00 PM
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3. there's an alleged video of male u.s. g.i.'s raping an iraqi boy
read it in the guardian
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:27 PM
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6. ugh. remind me NOT to watch that when it comes out
My brain is polluted enough from the photos that I've seen.

I wish I could wash them out of my brain.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:43 PM
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11. And we will still have some around here who will say...
..."nah, that ain't torture". Mind boggling.

Don
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:48 PM
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30. Just another fraternity prank, right Hannity?
RL
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 02:13 PM
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16. And I think it was Levin who said it THERE IS SOUND TO THE MOVIE
the movie HAS SOUND and he emphasized that. So apparently the sound makes it even worse.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:03 PM
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4. Rummy in his testimony
clarified that there are vids very graphic .
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:04 PM
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5. Yes, just after admitting he first saw the photos LAST NIGHT around 7:30!
He also eluded that some of the photos published by the press were "doctored to suit the tastes of the American people."

Ummm... 'k....
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:28 PM
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7. Yes, I prefer my Iraqi male genitalia served blurry
that's the "taste" he's referring to?

I guess he got to see the unblurred images. Lucky him.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:20 PM
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21. He was probably...
...jerking off.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:21 PM
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23. WARNOGRAPHY
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:27 PM
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25. I think what he meant . . .
. . . by that was the pictures that have been blurred so as not to offend.

TYY
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:39 PM
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8. ,,,
,,,
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:40 PM
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9. I shudder to think. OMG. nt
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:43 PM
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10. More to Come That Happened AFTER BUSH WAS TOLD!
There's going to be more videos and pics of more horrible abuse that happened after the admin. was "initially told" in Jan. They were told and did nothing about it.

Mark my words.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 02:25 PM
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18. nov 1
was the date of first awareness from whistle blow soldier. so i am not holding to january 17 being the first bush and admin knew about it. they were having meetings january 17 and powell is telling and i hear has been telling rumsfield he has to deal with this
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:47 PM
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12. warner keeps dodging the question of WORSE photos
they are prepping us for them. brace yourselves
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:48 PM
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13. Here is a link to the Taguba Report....
It spells right out in here the atrocities and the fact that there are photos and videos. That is why it is absurd for Rummy to make such a big deal about them. The atrocities are right there to fucking read, who needs the videos and pics? The words alone are horrendous. IF he fucking actually read it. What a fucking puke... :puke:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4894001
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 02:04 PM
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14. Rape and murder
A reporter just asked Levin if the tapes really contained rape and murder and he said he wasn't sure, he hadn't seen them. If that Fox news article was correct and it was little boys who were raped, how the hell are they going to show us something like that? This is so hard for my son to understand. God, it's hard for me to understand!
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 02:17 PM
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17. Rape and murder. Not torture I guess.
On CNBC, I heard that NBC's Jim Miklaszewski was reporting that there were charges of rape and murder coming.

If there's a snuff flick . . .

(Aside from the on-going one.)
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 02:11 PM
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15. Yet they still refuse to use the word torture
This is sick, WH has redefined Websters yet again.

I don't think I can handle looking at more.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:15 PM
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19. mentioned again and again today.....i think i'm gonna be sick
they are getting us prepped for some truly horrible images. the reporter on msnbc said he has heard rumors about a video that's too awful to describe until he can confirm it.

brace yourselves folks, it's gonna turn up about 10 notches
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freeminder Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:18 PM
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20. and if they're not released, everyone can start
asking to see "the rape video". Will be a little like wanting to see the Clenis. :shrug:

Except this is an issue that matters.

Given that thousands have died in the illegal war that gives rise to the prisons in the first place.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:21 PM
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22. has anyone other than Rummy and a few higher ups seen these vids and pics?
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:23 PM
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24. i assume
rummy played dumb and said he didn't see them till last night, and he couldnt' even describe it. the reporter on t.v. got a visible chill up his spine describing the rumor he heard, but couldn't yet confirm
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:30 PM
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27. Rummy said he hasn't seen the video. ...n/t
TYY
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Borknagar Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:28 PM
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26. Pathetic
It is utterly pathetic that it takes a scandal revolving aroung sex, rape, or genitalia to get the public's attention.

George W. Bush has lied about wars, the economy, being a Christian, and has stolen an election but none of that mattered.

The American people are a pathetic lot.

Of course, a lot of people I know like Bush because "he talks crap and kicks ass."
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:32 PM
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28. 20,000 dead innocents in 2 nations that weren't involved in 9-11
but if this issue is what it takes to wake folks the hell up....
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sallydallas124 Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:45 PM
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29. I don't get it
Rumsfeld admitting there's worse stuff out there seems counter to the bush admin's MO. Usually they lie, cover up, or distract. Is all this some type of creepy psyops? Humiliate the Iraqis in front of the world? An attempt at portraying them as inferior? And now the media is prepping everyone for even worse images? Why were all these military people documenting this horrible sh*t?
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salonghorn70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 07:12 PM
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31. Question Regarding New Photos
What will be the process of having them released to public and media?
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