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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:54 PM
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Quiet. Shh. Bush is now knee-deep in the scandal!!!
Edited on Fri May-07-04 01:19 PM by TruthIsAll
Sen. Nelson just questioned Rummie: When did you tell the president and what did you tell him? He stammered incoherently. Every week he meets with him. So he told Bush in January.

So what did Chimpy tell him? How did he respond?
No answer.

Bush is dead meat!

Rummie has just dissembled before our very eyes..

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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:56 PM
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1. Well when it gets to be up to his ass......
...He'll be in over his head.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:57 PM
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2. I think you may be right, TIA....
Whether or not he can spin his way out of it is another issue....
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:59 PM
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3. I wish I could watch or stream
I need to become a plumber or an electrician so I can work & listen to the radio during the day...
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:00 PM
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4. Didn't Bush claim he just found out?
Liar!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:04 PM
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8. I think that was reported a day or two ago....
That is what he said. I think he said he found out from the TV ??? Can someone help us out with this detail??
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:54 PM
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22. No he carefully said he just found out about the PICTURES recently
He knew about the torture in January or February, but he's trying to give the impression that he didn't know.

When more pictures and video come out that prove the torture continued after he knew about it (and they will), BUSH. IS. TOAST.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:00 PM
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5. meeting date is apparently one when Myers had a stand in, so should be
Edited on Fri May-07-04 01:01 PM by pinto
identifiable.

Remember Rummy tried to hand off to Myers, who said I wasn't there, Gen B... was in my place at that meeting. Late Jan or ealy Feb....

There must at least be a record of the meeting date if not notes.

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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:01 PM
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6. Gen. Myers: The President was informed in late JANUARY or early FEBRUARY
It's official, folks. The President has been thrown under the bus.

All of Rummy's apologetic "No, no! Look over here! It's my fault! I swear!" does no good.

This is Bush's Sex Scandal, and the press will want to take it to HIM. This is the kinda stuff the media salivates over.
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zestfolly Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:02 PM
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7. Has anyone added up the scandals
By now Bush must have surpassed Richard Nixon. Is there a full list of the scandals?
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sweetladybug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:05 PM
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9. TruthIsAll, I hope you are right, but
I wouldn't hold my breath. But I will continue to say a little prayer that Bush and his crime family are finally proven for what they are. Deceitful people are not slick all of the time. Slowing one by one might go down, but it will be hard to get to Bush with any proof on him and you have to remember he doesn't take responsiblity for anything that goes wrong, it's always someone else's fault.

ELECT KERRY 2004!!!!
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DerekGD Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:06 PM
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10. Why isn't the moron being impeached?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:10 PM
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11. Republican dominated Congress.
Yet, if enough scandal is uncovered, they won't be able to ignore it and will have to act. Keep your fingers crossed.
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DerekGD Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:23 PM
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13. Maybe if he gets a blowjob he will be impeached?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:25 PM
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14. Well, there IS hope. This is a SEX SCANDAL, after all.
Bush finally got his sex scandal, only it's far more devious, far more wide-spread, and far more damaging to American credibility than that silly little blue dress.

What will we tell the children?? I mean, Jesus... they are seeing these photographs, and they must have questions. Remember during BlowJobGate, all the parents who were disgusted and blamed Clinton because their children wanted to know what a blowjob was?

What will we tell the children now?
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DerekGD Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:38 PM
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15. I can see the questions now:
Edited on Fri May-07-04 01:54 PM by DerekGD
Daddy why do our soldiers put women's panties on people's head?

Daddy why do we put dog leashes around people's neck and drag them around like a dog.

Daddy why is that women laughing and pointing at those men's wheeny?

Daddy why are those men sucking on those other men's wheeny?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:49 PM
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19. Exactly!! And the next Repub who brings up the blue dress...
... is getting the "Daddy, why are those men sucking on the other men's weenie?" question from me.
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DerekGD Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:51 PM
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20. Just tell them that is part of the democratization process.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 02:10 PM
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25. We can keep our fingers crossed. But.... writing and calling ALSO!
Since the reich wing is also starting to get uncomfortably steamed, writing and calling them, in numbers, will help.

They're teetering....

Kanary
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:11 PM
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12. Snottie also confirmed this
At the press briefing yesterday or the day before he said that the pResident was informed in January so *'s statement about learning about it from the CBS show is a LIE. Gee - if the Repugs spent 70 million investigating a lie about a blowjob, anybody think they will match that here?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:44 PM
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16. Sigh!
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:46 PM
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17. Which Sen Nelson?????
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:48 PM
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18. Was Abuse and Torture STILL Happening in Feb., March and April?
I have a feeling the forthcoming additional vids and pics will confirm that in fact, it was. The President was told and yet the torture continued...Mark my words...
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:52 PM
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21. These are the people who promised to "restore" Honor and Integrity...
... to the White House.

Never, ever forget that, and be sure to bring it up to your freeping friends.

Does the photo of the hooded man on a box represent honor?

Does the photo of Lynddie and the dog collar represent integrity?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 02:07 PM
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23. bush probably told them to keep it out of the press
and kill them all if you have to.........or something similar.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 02:08 PM
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24. It was on CNN January 21st
<snip>

Details of Army's abuse investigation surface
Pentagon source: Photos may show soldiers, Iraqi detainees
From Barbara Starr
CNN Washington Bureau
Wednesday, January 21, 2004 Posted: 1237 GMT ( 8:37 PM HKT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sources have revealed new details from the Army's criminal investigation into reports of abuse of Iraqi detainees, including the location of the suspected crimes and evidence that is being sought.
U.S. soldiers reportedly posed for photographs with partially unclothed Iraqi prisoners, a Pentagon official told CNN on Tuesday.
A second source confirmed that the Army's Criminal Investigation Division has focused on these pictures, which may depict male and female soldiers.
Investigators have not determined whether any photographs had been taken or had been seen by anyone, but several military police have been removed from duty until the matter is resolved, the source said.
In addition, a senior Pentagon official said the investigation is focused on Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad, which had been notorious for torture of Iraqis during the regime of captured Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.
"If it happened, it's criminal activity," the official said. It is not clear, he said, if there were witnesses to the alleged events.
The official also confirmed there are "credible reports" that there may be photographs of the alleged abuse.
The official said it is not believed that the reports indicate widespread criminal abuse, but that the "nature" of the reports have caused concern in the Pentagon and at U.S. Central Command.
"There is zero tolerance" for abuse, he said. "One case is one too many."
Prisoners held by the United States in Iraq are held in accordance with guidelines established by the Geneva Conventions.
Those guidelines include the right of dignity and to be kept from public ridicule.
One source indicated that taking pictures of the prisoners would be considered criminal activity unless it could be demonstrated they were taken for official reasons related to the processing and handling of detainees.
The Pentagon official said computer hard drives have been seized by the Criminal Investigation Division in its search for photographs and additional evidence of abuse.
The official underscored what others in the Pentagon and Baghdad have said in recent days, which is that the matter is considered serious.
The official that the Army is deeply concerned about possible problems of "poor discipline, poor leadership, and a need for re-training," in the military police community.
Several officials say they cannot come to any conclusion about the matter until the investigation is complete but reiterate that Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, head of coalition forces in Iraq, is taking the matter seriously and is concerned.
The investigation has drawn attention in the military since it came to light January 16.
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has been briefed on the investigation, officials said.
Sanchez ordered the Army's Criminal Investigation Division to probe the matter as soon as he was told about the reports, sources said.
The official described Sanchez as "plunging in" when he learned of the matter.
The criminal investigations commander, Maj. Gen. Donald Ryder, also serves as the provost marshal general of the Army. That position makes him the most senior Army military police officer.
Ryder may have to investigate those police as part of the probe.
Ryder traveled to Baghdad late last year, according to aides, to review the treatment of detainees.
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