Why were the torture pics taken?

Was it just for the soldiers amusement, or did they receive orders from higher up? Maybe their fascist masters wanted proof they were really working over the A-rabs?

that the photos were to be used to intimidate other detainees.

prisons? If so, it would seem that these acts and the picture taking were official Pentagon policy. They had a practical usefulness for military interrogation purposes. That sounds like something everyone from the pResident to the lower level commandos would have been aware of.

... so they could pass them around. "Dude, check out these pictures!" That sort of thing.

Why would he record things he said that were so incriminating? Because he thought only the "good side" of his words would ever see--or hear, in his case--the light of day. Same mentality with these pics, I'll bet; their takers--and the photographers' COs--never figured they'd get beyond the DOD intel people. Soooooooooo much for THAT stupid idea!:eyes:

B-)

there was some recent stuff about LBJ that came from tapes in the oval office, as I recall

shits and giggles bourne of a culture obsessed with sex and violence and hypnotized into believing the misnomer that Iraqis had something to do with 9/11. Ughhhhh!

"Man, you will never believe this shit! Seriously! Look what we got to do in Iraq! It rules over here!!"

The only frat-prank here was committed by the guys taking the photos for their idiot friends back home. :puke:

The attention span of an average American is getting shorter and shorter ... and these guards are no exception. Entertainment. Approval (from their Beavis and Butthead friends.)

My sister says you can never tell when you're talking about a president who got wood when he was nominated at the convention.

I was thinking that someone must have wanted those pictures to get out, that's why there was so many of them, that's why they were taken in the first place. CIA doesn't reveal secrets if it doesn't want to. The photos just might do the job that we all hope for. They might be holding a grudge from the outing of Plame.

Not just about Plame though. * tried to frame the CIA for the false intel for going into Iraq.

Actually it was my husbands idea also! I think they're on to something.

They hold information on each other so they can't rat on each other.

Just like when i was in and the MPS would take pictures of each other smoking pot so they could not rat on each other. They knew they were doing some thing wrong

...the sadism photos will bring back the pleasant memories of dominance, fear and pain, again and again for the perps, they thought.

That Bush only saw the pics recently. This is the type of sadistic, homoerotic stuff that he really gets off on. I'd be willing to bet he saw those pics and loved them and got lots of laughs and sexual gratification from those images. And not just him. I bet they went up the chain of command just for shits and giggles. Just my gut feeling...

sa·dism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sdzm, sdz-)
n.
1. The deriving of sexual gratification or the tendency to derive sexual gratification from inflicting pain or emotional abuse on others.
2. The deriving of pleasure, or the tendency to derive pleasure, from cruelty.
3. Extreme cruelty.



http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sadism

One can imagine *'s comments:

"He-hee...look at this one! Oh, please don't put a dog collar on me! This one's funny...the guy's not only wearing ladies undies, he's got 'em on his head...and on backwards! He's smellin' poopie! Hey, look at this guy on ice! That's one way to stay cool in Iraq. Yee-haw! When do we get the videos...and can we get 'em on DVD? How about the PlayStation game? I hope it's a FPS version!!"

Why did bush agree to sit down with Woodward for his latest book?

Why? Because those absolutely corrupted by power believe their own PR and in their own invincibility and righteousness.

I'd even venture the guess that these videos and pix were taken specifically to send *to bush & rummy* so the interrogators in Iraq could prove to bushco that they were carrying out their directives to get info out of the prisoners.

For perverted entertainment, to intimidate and to satisfy the admin. that everything possible was being done to get info re: WMD.

I believe it was ordered by the top, disgusting beyond belief.

Mr al-Baz claims the guards at the prison were keen to take photographs of the abuse and turned it into a competition.

"They were enjoying taking photographs of the torture. There was a daily competition to see who could take the most gruesome picture.

"The winner's photo would be stuck on a wall and also put on their laptop computers as a screensaver.


http://www.itv.com/news/623337.html

and so it goes...

since I'm the mother of a 20-yr. old Marine headed for Baghdad this month, that this generation of troops has a very different mindset on images and privacy than many of us do. These young people have grown up with constant video, TIVO, cell phones, DVDs. CDs, iChat, picture phones, text messaging, and laptops. When my kids were teenagers they'd come home from being with their friends, still talking on their cell phones to their friends, and fire-up the computer to chat online with their friends. Constant access. Constant communication. Plus, these young people have been videotaped themselves, by their parents, coaches, schools, security cameras at the mall, and each other to the extent that it's second nature. It's accepted to document everything you do. Everything. Just like Reality TV. We older folks who, supposedly, are running things better get a grip. There is no secrecy. There is no hiding dirty deeds. Rummy and Bush haven't been paying attention. Maybe Bush should attend the twins' graduations. He ought to learn a little more about the thinking of younger people. These soldiers documented what they did because they're always documenting what they do. Even the horrible stuff.

God/dess', Jehovah's, Allah's, G-d's-speed and may he return safely. :hug:

As for your analysis of our youth (I have 23 and 20 year-old daughters), I believe that you are spot on. As for dumbass going to his daughter's graduations...why should he...he "...doesn't care what think".

Jenn

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