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malachibk Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 02:48 PM
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I have a question about MIHOP...
So I just saw those slowed-down videos that claim to show the missle pods and the point of entry and all that. I still can't bring myself to believe MIHOP personally, but let's assume that bushco did, after all, do this.

How did the ground crews at Logan not see the launching pods? And if the planes that hit the towers weren't the planes from Logan, where the hell are all those people from the planes? Gilligan's Island somewhere?

How do MIHOP people explain this?
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 02:50 PM
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1. personally, I don't put much stock in the missile pod claims
and MIHOP stands alone just fine without them... totally unnecessary
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malachibk Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 02:51 PM
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2. MIHOP in the sense
that they financed and organized? Just how much do MIHOPers think Bush himself did or knew? Or is Bush out of the loop on this?
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 02:54 PM
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4. since I am not a MIHOPer, I can't really say
and I imagine there are quite a few variations inthe camp

but personally I think Bush knows about as much about the operations of this Admin as a lingerie model knows about industrial sewing-machine repair

he is a mere spokesman, IMHO
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:03 PM
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8. It's a good cover story...his dad called it "plausible deniability".
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:01 PM
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7. Look at Junior's face when he was told by Andy Card about the second....
...plane's impact on the WTC.

Is that a look of surprise? No, because he already knew that plane #1 had struck the WTC...in fact, he stated on at least two instances that he personally SAW the first plane hit the WTC.

Is it a look of fear? No, not at all.

Is it a look of stupidity? That could very well be debated.

Or is it the look of a man that knows that he has a part to play over the next few weeks to help the NeoCons accomplish their objectives? And the primary objective is to whip up hatred against the Middle Easterners that allegedly perpetrated this act of supreme violence. As the PNAC document, "Rebuilding America's Defenses", states, they needed "another Pearl Harbor" to whip up support for the war they wanted to wage for the sake of cornering the world's oil.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 02:53 PM
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3. Personally, I'm leaning more and more toward MIHOP, but...
...IMHO, they didn't need missile pods when they had a large jet aircraft loaded with fuel traveling in excess of 450 mph.

Additionally, I think the "missile pod" theory was offered as a means to discredit MIHOP.
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malachibk Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 02:55 PM
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5. Interesting...
I always forget that just because these neocons are idiots, doesn't mean they can't be clever.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 02:55 PM
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6. IMHO, pods and missiles are disinfo to discredit valid inquiry.
I'm MIHOP, but the premise is nuts and an absolute distraction orchestrated, I believe, to throw us off the hunt and make 9/11 skeptics appear "loony" to the general populace.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:25 PM
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11. I don't totally disagree with you but
the same thing was said about those who questioned whether a 747 hit the Pentagon, too. I think now quite a few who are looking into this question what did hit the Pentagon. But when the questions first started there were a lot of people who said, as you do, that this was disinfo meant to marginalize.

I think there could be some 'sense' in the idea that missiles went into the towers just prior to the planes. The evidence available via the web is inconclusive. I wish I had a real broadcast quality video to look at.

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BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:28 PM
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13. Wow........
Believing they MIHOP isn't 'loony', but missiles and pods are?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:39 PM
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15. Evidence supports complicity. But the evidence is not there
for missiles and pods.

Grainy video open to myriad interpretations cannot support such an extravagant premise. And there's no accounting for the "why": why would a pod be there, and what's the purpose of a missile?

Believe what you want. I've spent two years, compiling a dozen binders of 9/11 material. The best, even the simplest explanation for the events of September 11 is treason, implicating senior elements of government, intelligence and military. I didn't begin my study with the assumption of complicity - it didn't occur to me anyone could be so wicked - but that's where the evidence led me. My "conspiracy theory" is not faith based. Is your "coincidence theory"?
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:22 PM
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9. I Don't See the Sense in the Missile Pod Claims
but I prefer to start from direct evidence and dammit, there's some kind of anomaly on that plane in the public photos. I don't know how to explain it. It may have a reasonable explanation -- I just haven't seen it.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:23 PM
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10. not the same plane
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:26 PM
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12. The planes that hit the towers may not have been the ones that flew out of
The planes that hit the towers may not have been the ones that flew out of the airports. Of course, to anyone who hasn't looked into all the various threads of this conspiracy, that sounds completely absurd. But it would be naive to think that a conspiracy of this scope would leave anything to chance. If it is MIHOP what we are dealing with is an extremely sophisticated covert-military operation--and don't think for a moment that we do not have operatives capable of pulling something like this off. We do. And they are for hire.
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NecessaryOnslaught Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:28 PM
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14. Not dismissing the missle theory
but mihop indeed does do just fine without it...



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