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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:07 PM
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Lieutenant-General William Boykin...remember him? MUST read
Edited on Fri May-07-04 03:33 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
made Islam slurs in churches while wearing his uniform...the fundie fanatic that made slurs against muslims in church ...has anyone asked what roll he has played in this insidous torture of Iraqi prisoners.
remember him? he was in charge of Intellegence gathering in Iraqi prisoners
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,7634821%255E1702,00.html

A TOP Pentagon general has requested an investigation of his church speeches casting the war on terrorism in religious terms, US Defence Secretary Donald H Rumsfeld said overnight.

Several Islamic and religious freedom groups and foreign officials criticised Army Lieutenant-General William Boykin last week when reports surfaced of his comments during several speeches at evangelical Christian churches.

Boykin said the enemy in the war on terrorism was Satan, that God had put President George W Bush in the White House and called one Muslim Somali warlord an idol-worshipper.

<snip> Rumsfeld said it had not been determined whether that probe would be conducted by the Army's inspector-general or the Defence Department's internal watchdog. Boykin is the deputy undersecretary of defence for intelligence.



...Boykin was put in charge of the intelligence gathering for Iraqi prisoners :wtf: has anyone in senate or congeress asked about his roll/involvement in this iraq prisnor torture/abuse at the hearings?


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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:13 PM
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1. Excellent Catch!
You have to figure all this bible thumping and framing the invasion as a "crusade" had to add to the dehumanization process that encourages torture. Boykin is just one of many who turned the military into a partisan/religious warehouse of hate and discrimination. It's time we took a real look at that. Again, many thanks for posting.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:14 PM
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2. Good Question. n/t
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:15 PM
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3. Good grief. No wonder the soldiers knew it was open season
on brown skinned people and muslims.

This adminstration is sick and rotten from top to bottom.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:15 PM
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4. more info on boykin
GET TO KNOW GENERAL BOYKIN HERE:
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh102803.shtml

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:23 PM
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5. found this at counterpunch "The Nuptials of Boykin and Wolfowitz"
Edited on Fri May-07-04 03:24 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
The Bride Wore Black
http://www.counterpunch.org/landau11082003.html

<snip> Now, imagine an intellectual marriage between these two men! Does it seem bizarre that ultra zany Christian theologians wearing military uniforms marry Jewish neo-con ideologues? In the 21st Century, this union has not replaced the family, but it has invaded the space traditionally occupied by foreign policy strategists.



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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:27 PM
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7. thanks mopaul
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:23 PM
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6. Gen. Boykin and his ass-raping, child-fucking, grandma-beating...
...'God Warriors'.

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:48 PM
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8. scary.........more Boykin
SAVING GENERAL BOYKIN (PART 2)! General Boykin’s oddest remarks have been airbrushed from major newspapers:

TUESDAY, OCTOBER 28, 2003

GOOD-BYE, MOGADISHU: Yes, it’s true—Lt. General Jerry Boykin seems to hold some unusual beliefs. In speeches to various religious assemblies, Boykin has said that, despite getting fewer votes than Gore, George W. Bush is in the White House because God intervened in his case. More oddly, he thinks that he has taken photos of the sky above Mogadishu which show “a demonic spirit over the city.” “Ladies and gentleman, that’s not a fake, that’s not a farce,” he has said (see THE DAILY HOWLER, 10/27/03).

Do Boykin’s photos really show such a presence? We don’t have the slightest idea how you would settle that question. Nor would Boykin’s views even matter, except for his high position. But alas! Boykin is a deputy undersecretary of Defense for intelligence, with major responsibilities in the War on Terror. William Arkin describes his position in the Los Angeles Times:

ARKIN: In this newly created position, Boykin is not just another Pentagon apparatchik or bureaucratic warrior. He has been charged with reinvigorating Rumsfeld’s “High Value Target Plan” to track down Bin Laden, Hussein, Mullah Omar and other leaders in the terrorism world.

In short, a man charged with evaluating intelligence reports sees “demonic presences” in his own snapshots! Is General Boykin, however decent a person, perhaps a little bit of a nut? You’d almost think that someone would ask—especially if we actually care about those troops to whom we all love to pander.

But few scribes are going to ask that question, whatever the answer might actually be. (We assume that Boykin is a thoroughly decent man, and a thoroughly hard-working soldier.) Indeed, when the mainstream press has discussed this case, reporters have tended to airbrush away the strangest things Boykin has said. Most strikingly, his statements about those snapshots have rarely been mentioned. For example, his statements about the Mogadishu pics have never been mentioned in Washington Post news reports. In the New York Times and USA Today, the general’s statements about Mogadishu have never been mentioned at all. These papers don’t seem to want their readers to know what the general has said.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:32 PM
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9. more about the Boykin connection? from Nov 2003


http://www.counterpunch.org/terrall11292003.html

While Bush intoned, "Americans hold a deep respect for the Islamic faith, which is professed by a growing number of my own citizens," few observers expect Indonesian public opinion to be swayed by his disingenuous lecture. Three years ago, 75% of those Indonesians surveyed by the Pew Charitable Trust looked favorably upon the U.S.; this year that figure dropped to 15%. And though Bush also claimed, "we know that Islam is fully compatible with liberty and tolerance and progress because we see the proof in your country and in our own," it has been widely reported that Franklin Graham, who blessed Bush's inauguration and quadrupled the number of missionaries in occupied Iraq, called Islam a "very evil, wicked religion."

Further Christian right nonsense has been spouted by special forces veteran Lt. General William G. Boykin, recently named by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld to a new position as deputy undersecretary of Defense for intelligence (where he will be in charge of tracking down Bin Laden, Hussein, Mullah Omar and other big name "evildoers"). Boykin explained that Islamists resent the U.S. "because we're a Christian nation, because our foundation and our roots are Judeo-Christian and the enemy is a guy called Satan," and bragged that he defeated a Muslim warlord in Somalia because "I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol." Rumsfeld later told reporters that "it doesn't look like any rules were broken" by these statements.


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