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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:12 PM
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Does America know the hell it's hurtling into? More abuse, from ITV:
"They made the son carry two jerry cans full of water. An American soldier had a stick and when he stopped, he would beat him.

"He collapsed so they stripped him and poured cold water over him. They brought a man who was wearing a hood. They pulled it off. The son was shocked to see it was his father and collapsed.

"When he recovered, he now saw his father dressed in women's underwear and the Americans laughing at him.

http://www.itv.com/news/623337.html

A daily competition to take the most gruesome picture, which would be used as a screensaver.... Beating a naked 12-year old girl...

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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:18 PM
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1. Kind of reminds me of the stories about what the japanese...........
did to their POW's in WWII
I hope it's not true.
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Greylady Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:25 PM
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2. There is not an apology heartfelt enough
that will erase the brutality of beating children to torture their relatives.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:26 PM
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3. HOLY SHIT!
I am beyond ill-completely mortified.
This is explosive.
Beating a nude MUSLIM FEMALE child?
Our troops are dead when this gets out.
NO American will be safe in the ME for the rest of history.
This will blow the lid off of the WHOLE thing.
IMPEACH THEM ALL!
NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:33 PM
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Metrix Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:39 PM
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5. Yeah, wrong
Now you know.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:45 PM
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6. You are joking right?
Please tell me you are joking.
It is not possible that you are that ignorant,
so you must be joking.
Please, tell me you are joking?
Please?
BHN
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lastcall4midol Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:59 PM
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12. Why are they kept under a blanket and murdered if caught with another?
What is all that *special* treatment about? Can they drive? Wear a dress? Talk to other males? Hug another man? Are they treated with the same fairness as Muslim men?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:05 PM
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15. Pardon me, but
Do you know a SINGLE GODDAMN THING about the country you're occupying?
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:07 PM
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16. It's not your fault,so I forgive you.
Edited on Fri May-07-04 04:09 PM by BeHereNow
You are completely brainwashed about Muslim faith
and ME culture.
I will blame our education system for your ignorance,
but hold you responsible for educating yourself.
BHN
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:28 PM
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27. Dead wrong. But I'm sure you knew that before you posted it. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:31 PM
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lastcall4midol Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:56 PM
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10. Suhaib al-Baz, a journalist for the al-Jazeera television network, claims
Maybe you want to wait for some proof other than a "journalist" for al-Jazeera claims? Last time I checked even American soldiers are innocent until proven guilty.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:17 PM
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24. In the military your guilty until proven innocent
Your post shows that your slip is showing
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:51 PM
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7. Kick!
Edited on Fri May-07-04 03:51 PM by BeHereNow
This is BIG news.
Revealing this type of abuse towards
a FEMALE, and a CHILD will cause major
shit to hit the fan.
Thanks for posting it.
BHN
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:53 PM
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8. link to the Latest Breaking News thread of the same article:
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lastcall4midol Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:53 PM
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9. Everyone and their sister are now going to try and claim abuse
It's just like the copycat types that use a real event to create or claim one of their own. We should filter and vet such claims carefully because many with a bone to pick with Americans are going to try and piggyback on this.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:59 PM
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11. Yeah, let's put all our concern on copycats!
You can't be serious? We have pictures of widespread abuse and you are concerned about copycats? Are you sure you belong here?

What has already happened is an absolute and total disgrace. No copycats are going to add to or diminish that.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:03 PM
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13. Let the courts do the judging.
Or the courts martial.


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lastcall4midol Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:10 PM
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18. Exactly my point
Watching some here declare them guilty of every loose cannon charge before a trial is very disturbing.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:12 PM
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21. You are missing the point-
But somehow, that does not surprise me,
having read your posts thus far...
BHN
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:03 PM
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14. Of course! Because being subjected to sexual degradation
is the "new cool" in Iraq. Shame? Hell no! From Basra to Mosul, it's "Me too! Me too!"

And while you're at it, keep a sharp lookout for Welfare Queens.
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lastcall4midol Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:13 PM
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22. I fail to see what welfare claims have to do with unproven abuse claims
Welfare recipients have nothing to do with painting all our troops as guilty.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:29 PM
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34. No?
Just reminded me of a talking point, is all. Casting sweeping, unfounded suspicion upon the needy. That kinda thing.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:11 PM
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19. Sheeshh...that's my main concern....right....
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:30 PM
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28. Should have thought about that before that idiot started his war. n/t
Edited on Fri May-07-04 04:43 PM by Tinoire
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:41 PM
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35. tin-foil hat time...
and the sky is falling, too.
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GeronimoSkull Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:08 PM
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17. Smeared With Shit; Kicked to Death
They Did It for Jessica

Smeared With Shit; Kicked to Death

...The most sadistic case to come across our desk involves two US Marines now undergoing court-martial proceedings stemming from the death of an Iraqi citizen called Mr. Hatab. The killing took place last year at Camp Whitehorse outside Nasyriya.
Hatab was detained by a Marine patrol on June 5, 2003.

The Marines were apparently enraged by the fact that Hatab was discovered carrying a rifle from the 507th, the division of famed damsel in distress Jessica Lynch, which had been ambushed early in the war. Two Marine Lance Corporals covered the the civilian with feces, stomped on him, kicked him, dragged him, and finally broke his neck, resulting in his death.

The Marine Major who ordered the abuse faces military trial for dereliction of duty and assault. The Marine reservist who killed Hatab has already been cleared of wrongdoing by a military tribunal. One other Lance Corporal, a federal corrections officer in the US, is charged with kicking Mr. Hatab.

http://www.counterpunch.com/wire05062004.html
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:11 PM
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20. You'll excuse me if I discount your source, OK?
Something about man titties...
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GeronimoSkull Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:14 PM
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23. Explain
I don't get it

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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:33 PM
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30. Roughly similar story here
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20040415-9999-1mc15pittman.html

It doesn't mention shit, but it does say there are charges of 'cruelty and maltreatment' as well as assault.

So what does the 'man titties' remark mean?
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:45 PM
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32. You're right. Let's wait til Fox carries the story.
:eyes:
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:51 PM
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33. Yes, yes...
Fox will clear it up-
We'll wait for more clarity from the
intellectual bimbo journalists at Fox to set us straight.
Excellent suggestion Tinoire!
ROLF-
BHN:hi:
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:19 PM
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25. That girl in that story is 12 . just a few years older than my niece.
.....man I just HOPE this is not a true.

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:27 PM
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26. True or not-
The fact that it has hit the story has hit the
news is REALLY bad news for our troops.
I pray it is not true, and don't mean to minimalize
the atrociousness of the act.
If it is true, the people who did it and allowed it
should be locked away forever.
If it is not true, I am thankful that no child endured
such treatment, but fully aware of what it implies
for the troops when it is read by Muslims, who unlike
'murikkkans have a deep sense of modesty and
protectiveness for their children and especially the
sacredness of their female children.
Can you imagine seeing an Iraqi girl dressed in
the hideous hooker garb that the malls in America
push on our young women?
NOT!
BHN
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narcjen Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:38 PM
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31. Worse than Saddam
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