McCain is my new hero!!!

I've been listening to his questioning on Randi and I have to say that if McCain had won the 2000 republican primry (I think he would have also lost against Gore, but that's another matter) this country would be much better off. Thank God for Republicans like McCain, he's the savior of the Republican party. He may bring some sense to the party after all.

Anybody have any thoughts?


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Ok, ok, ok. I admit it, I got a little excited here, but I have to admit that hearing a pug take rumfilled to task like that gave me a bit of a political chubby. So he's not the republican messiah, ok. I just think it was great to see another pug draw some blood into the water today.

Ok, he may be doing some political stumping but he's the leading voice of reason in the party.

1) Fuck McCain
2) Fuck the republican party

Thank you.

I'm not throwing in a towel here or anything, but I just wanted to voice my respect for the man's poignant line of questioning today, he really let Rummfilled have it.

But, seriously, that isn't saying much.

McCain is a good guy. TOO conservative for me but a straight shooter.

..to make some sense he goes off and says something SO stupid and republican that it smacks me back to reality...Like his recent defense of *'s AWOL status...

So, like I said

Fuck John McCain and the elephant he rode in on..

Smarter, too.

Maybe "hero" was a stretch, how about "respectable Republican"?

I hope someone can.

I'm aggravated with him stumping for shrub, but he's pretty fair and decent most of the time. I don't agree with him on very much, though. He loves the military, and he loves to take care of them. I think he'll be great at getting to the bottom of this mess (if they'll let him).

there would have been no question that McCain would have won handily. The independents loved him--I don't think it would have been close and I say that as someone who would have still voted for Gore.

I hadn't thought of it that way, but I think you're right. McCain really did sway quite a few disenchanted dems so I guess it would make sense that it would have come out less close than it was.

(my gut feeling, not based on anything rational). But anyway -- we'd have a Republican president, but at the same time, I probably wouldn't have gotten nearly as involved in politics as I am because there's no way McCain would have pissed me off this much.

I don't agree with a lot of what McCain has to say, but at least he seems honest and intelligent, which is more than I can say for the current administration. I don't think we'd be this hated around the world with a President McCain.

impressive today.

Both parties need to be able to work together and govern conjointly. For that to happen, there need to be Republicans who are grownups, who aren't allergic to truth and the light of day, who can express differences honestly and admit when their side is in the wrong. In a word, we need Republicans like McCain. I'd still rather vote for a Democrat like Kerry, but we need to be able to draw distinctions between the Republicans with whom we don't see eye to eye and the Republicans who are destroying this country.

But he bucks the party powerful just often enough to have earned the title "maverick."

Don't kid yourself. There is nothing moderate about him.

If the GOP needs a savior, let's hope they can do better.

Of course, next to Bush and his gang of neocon thieves and religious lunatics, he does look better.

Campaign finance reform? Introduction of environmental bills that are ten steps left of the right? I don't recall a lot of right-wingers wanting that.

I'm not kidding myself. There is lots moderate about McCain. Not leftist, but moderate.

He just might have been a uniter, and I think he would have been legally elected in 2000. We sure wouldn't be in the soup sandwich we are in now.

But I would still have voted for Gore (not that damned Lieberman, though--there is a snake for you).

He has really done a 180 on the environment and is really leading the charge there to the dismay of his RW peers. There are other positions as well where he shows as a moderate.

I noticed that he does NOT look very healthy.

I am with Randi Rhodes on McCain. His family, his wife were mercilessly villified , ruthlessly , by the Bush gang during the primaries, and he sucked up to Bush after that. Not an admirable position, as far as I can see. I would not like to be his wife.

That stance taken by Mc CAin after that attack on his family, is NOT an admirable trait . Naturally, he is a Republican conservative and votes that way consistently

To his credit, he is simply an upstart that asks the tough questions for whatever reason now. He was impressive during the hearing today in the questions and the manner he questioned Rumsfeld.

Perhaps he realizes he does not have that much more time to spend on this earth.

And someone asked what I meant when I said that half of the posts on this message board were from Republicans. Immagine that.

I'm a tried and true of a Dem as anybody else here. It just makes me giddy to see a Pug stepping up to the admin. Makes me think there's hope, yet.

...you might just be right about that.

But he will never bring sense to that party. They are a bunch of right wing lunatics and fundamentalists. There are a few good ones but these guys are nuts.

Most of the party base is made up up lunatics like Falwell and Michael Savage. I don't see how you can do much with that.

:)

Today he questions him, AFTER ALREADY HAVING MADE UP HIS MIND.

GOOD PROPAGANDA SHOW!!

I hadn't thought of it that way. Either way, though, the questions are being asked ... on camera.

McCain is like finding a few chocholate chips within a turd.

... and that still recognizes both his complicity in Silverado and his wife's theft of drugs. The Busholinis are so insanely corrupt, the relatively honest partisan Republicans are in deep denial.

When it comes to the abusive treatment of (purported) POW's, I'd sure as hell expect McCain to rip DoD a new anal orifice. He's one who'd been there.

n/t

ANYTHING on the face of the planet is more honest than b*sh- with the exeption perhaps of Cheney.

... I'd let him take care of my dog for a weekend or my kids for an evening.

I wouldn't trust a Busholini (DimSon/Cheney/Powell/Rummy/Wolfowitz/Rice/etc.) to take out the trash or pick up the dogshit ... even if supervised. These are corrupt, detestible people.

In summary: McCain did a far better job in the hearing than Lieberman.

he ripped Rumsfield today.

I'll hold my opinion in abeyance until I watch the archived stream. If he got Rummy Frosted, I'm happy as a clam.

dare attack W"

McCain is still an Uber-Partisan Shill for *!

:crazy:

McCain put himself on the line some today. He's asking the questions that need be asked. Like: "what is the chain of command?"

Its no wonder the party elite banded together against him in 2000. Same thing the DLC did to Howard Dean (and Wes Clark) this year.

Jeeze, get a grip.

I think the guy's heart is in the right place. We would do well to have someone like him on our side of the fence.

Look at the subject of the sentence. I was referring to McCain.

He's equal opportunity !

This board is getting just crazy...a repub is now someone's hero.

McCain is a republican.....he has pulled some shady nasty crap here in my state. He is like any other repub....don't kid yourself.

He was a POW- why isn't he screaming at the top of his lungs about the Iraqi prisoner abuse?? Maybe the same reason he forced relocation to radioactive lands for the Navajo.

Please...I am very sad to see this guy put up as a hero here on a Dem board...sure tells me what is going on here.

Peace
DR

becomes God.
Helsinki syndrome + influx of freepers.

I don't take kindly to being referred to as a "freeper". True, the bar of honor is lower for pugs, but any positive movement is a blessing.

However..I respect him as someone who is more or less ture to his ideals....

or heard that at least appears to be pushing for the truth. He sure was the only questioner who wouldn't let Rummy get away with trying to shirk his responsibility and get others to answer questions for him.

Beat him up if you want, but I have to tell you, he did a lot better than some of the Dems today.

He was the one who drove home the "There is much worse to come" point. That's what told me that the Repugs know how bad this is and are trying to get off the sinking ship like the rats they are!

THAT'S ALL I WAS TRYING TO SAY HERE!!!

Jeez, say something nice about a pug and get labeled a freep. Go figure.

Listen. Did you hear that? It was Freeperville calling you! They've got a place all set up for ya. Sheeeezzzzz. McCain!

Ok, ok, ok. I admit it, I got a little excited here,

that is funny. you put a smile on my face. having the most extreme on the other side for so long, an extreme with all the power and the absurdity in behavior and lies.......to hear reason. to here someone on that side validate that we arent in some la la world, just a validation.

i mean, i hear you

i felt the same way yesterday hearing an x republican acknowledge that what he was seeing is what i am seeing. i am not the only one.

He should change to Independent.

As a McCain admirer.

Yes, he stumped for Bush. He took one for the team. Consider that he's a Republican who appeals to the undecided and even to a few Democrats. It's a no-brainer that he would be important in luring the non-koolaid drinkers to Bush's camp. I would also be he hate every minute of it. If only Zell Miller had that much loyalty to HIS party.

I don't see eye-to-eye with McCain on many issues, but I equate him to some degree with Paul Wellstone. Most Repubs I know respect that Wellstone was a liberal man in politics, as opposed to a liberal politician. I see McCain as a man with beliefs who tries to stay above politics for politics sake...much like Wellstone. The man publicly and fearlessly defended Kerry's record! Agree with him or not, we should expect to find more men like John McCain and Howard Dean in Washington, sooner rather than later.

How low are your expectations of people?

but I wouldn't want him branching out into either social or economic issues.......

So true. If LIEberman had McCain's cojones...