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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:21 PM
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Has anyone else noticed rising prices on LOTS of things?
We have inflation--and it's not being reported on. Here's a short list of things for which I've noticed a significant increase in prices:

gas (that's the big one)
all dairy products
beef
chicken
sodas (spike of about 30 percent!)
bread

And those are just the things I come up with off the top of my head. It seems very clear that we've got measurable inflation on consumer goods--significantly so--yet we're hearing nothing about it on the news.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:22 PM
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1. Yes, I have
For quite a while the bill at the grocery store was quite good with all the bargains. We're still buying the bargains, but the bill ends up a hell of a lot higher.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:22 PM
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2. yes
Grocery shopping is where I noticed this the most
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:23 PM
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3. Ice Cream
For many years I could by Ice cream for $1.99, just last week they raised it to $2.49.
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:23 PM
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4. it is all a conspiracy
We talk trash about Saudi Arabia and their price gouging to help the president but I'll bet you anything the presidents of Coke and Pepsi have the same deal with the president.

Can you see him in New York in September his big goofy grin when he says "Have a coke and a smile, vote for me, I brought back the 50 cent soda!"
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:24 PM
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5. Yes.....dairy for sure...and pasta!!
Read a story about local dairies here in Southern NM....when there was the glut, they basically sold off cows, so now they have too few cows, so the supply is squeezed....
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:36 PM
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18. And Canadian farmers and ranchers can't supply dairy cows to the US
market any more due to the new mad cow regulations on cross border trade in cattle. This was a news story on the Canadian news recently. It mentioned how Canadian farmers and cattle auctions were loosing money as Canadian cattle could no longer be sold to the US and how milk and milk product prices were rising in the US as a result.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:30 PM
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30. the supply is squeezed....
Hahahahahahahahahaha
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:24 PM
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6. I noticed a change in food prices several weeks ago
and shrugged it off as my extravagence in buying things that I did not really need.

But, really, it was not. Prices on food have gone up.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:25 PM
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7. And it's not just the higher prices
They are constantly shrinking the package sizes, so that you end up paying the same-or more--for less.
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:26 PM
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8. Where do inflation numbers come from?
There has to be a report somewhere that has the numbers.
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feistydem Donating Member (994 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:31 PM
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15. Gas prices
It costs a lot more to ship goods from one part of the country to another and the costs are simply passed on to consumers.

Gasoline just hit $40 a barrel. That's up nearly $20 from those happier Clinton days.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:26 PM
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9. oh yes! and the costs are gonna go higher
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:27 PM
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10. It's because the cost of oil is rising.
Our economy is based on moving materials around by truck. Trucks run on petroleum. When the cost of oil rises, the cost of transportation rises. Also, the cost of steel is way up, because production of steel from iron ore is enormously oil-intensive. Trucks and factories are made of steel.

Our entire economy is based on oil, and so when oil goes up, so does the cost of everything else. That includes food, medicine, vehicles, clothes, everything.

This is what happened in the 1970s when oil prices went high.

If American had spent a dime on developing alternative energies for every million we've spent on propping up the petroleum industry, we might have a solution to this problem. But the Chimp administration is the most petroleum-heavy in American history.

That was the major difference between Gore and Bush, for those who were listening to Nader in 2000.
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:36 PM
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17. Milk here in this part of Georgia
went from $2.99 a gal to $3.59 last week. I went down the meat aisle and just ended up viewing dead animal bodies, thought I was at a wake. 5 lbs of sickly looking chicken breast was Over $15.00 just viewed it and moved on. Yes inflation is already easing it's head up, being squeezed back in the bottle by Greenspan for the repugs, but will rare it's ugly head with a vengeance after the election no matter who wins.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:29 PM
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11. With gas near 2 bucks a gallon there is no doubt
you will see prices rise on commodities like you mention. And, its those kind of price hikes that instantly destroy any semblance of a Bush* tax cut.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:31 PM
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12. Don't forget housing
prices are way up, whether renting or buying. All kinds of insurance, too. It makes me wonder just what items they are looking at when they calculate the inflation rate. It sure seems like everything is going up to me... well, except for my salary. :(
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liberalron Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:37 PM
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19. Maybe they mixed up the reports
and it was the rise in wages that they were really talking about.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:31 PM
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13. Yes, especially groceries for the last 6 months.
Prices higher and/or contents less.
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I_like_chicken Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:31 PM
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14. yeah my local news did a story on it
after they reported on Rumsfled:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1552507

the people they interviewed didn't seem too worried about gas prices, they just assumed prices will go down after awhile, and that this is just a natural cycle.

After reading Krugman's coloumn today, i dont know how true that is:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/07/opinion/07KRUG.html
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:34 PM
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16. hell even dog food and cat food are up
I am not a tinfoiler, but in the book BEYOND A PALE HORSE the author talks about the deliberate "stress testing" of our economy as part and parcel of the takeover of our nation.

I believe we have seen this scenario several times since Bush was inaugurated via the stock market, gas, and the energy crisis in California and that this is simply an extension of that practice. Granted in a so called free market, prices are supposed to land at levels the market will sustain but there are too many manipulations.

For instance, California gets the majority of their oil from....well....California..so they claim it is a refinery problem..but go back and read the news prior to every summer you have been alive...either a refinery is taken out for "upgrades" or there is a major refinery fire immediately prior to the peak travel season...check it out..even on the internet google refinery..summer by summer for every year the internet has been available..it always happens without fail.

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feistydem Donating Member (994 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:38 PM
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20. Also trade imbalances, and the shrinking dollar are to blame.
Let's face it, what ally do we have left to help us out of our growing economic woes? There was a time when other nations would make adjustments to keep the US dollar strong because their fiscal health depended on ours.

Now with the EU and nations gaining jobs from our corporations going overseas --the US has a shrinking economy-- and we look weakened and like a bad investment.

What's more, our allies don't mind seeing the US taken down a notch after GWB and Rummy swaggered around calling our friends a bunch of crybabies. If you insult your friends, don't expect them to pull you up when you are knocked down. They already came to our side after 9/11 and look what we did to them. We kicked them in the teeth.

Some friend we are.

This can all be attributed to Bush Admin. fiscal policies.

Rome falling redux. History may be repeating itself.
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:40 PM
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21. Grocery prices are awful
I feel sorry for those families on a budget. Especially kids who need to drink their milk.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:40 PM
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22. Steel Prices are way up ~ All building supplies are up
Insurance cost have soared especially Workmans Comp. Freight costs have taken a big leap and I don't know what's going on with Dairy products. They have gone up considerably. Cigarettes have gone up due to taxation but Beer has stayed down. I guess they want us to stay somewhat content while they pillage the country. Oil company Profits are reaching record amounts.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:41 PM
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23. Well you know the dollar is worth nothing now
they decided that devaluation was a good thing (like they decided the deficit was a good thing!)

"Don't leave the Republicans in charge of the money, the Republicans don't know how to manage money".

Howard Dean

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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:42 PM
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24. don't forget the truckers in LA shutting down the freeways in protest
it's just the beginning of Peak Oil.

Expect a lot more to get a lot worse.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:44 PM
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25. good butter at the best place in town
went from $1.99 to $3.39 Gas is now $2.20 for regular.
I wonder if guns are cheaper now?
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:45 PM
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26. Yes
And even more significantly, a site I visit that is rather survivalist/freeper has noticed. They freaked about Y2K and have settled down since, but, my, they are going mad because of gas and mild prices!
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:47 PM
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27. How is Inflation figured?
I can't understand how the price of gas can go up 60 cents a galloon, medical costs are up, sate tolls increase, the price fo food seems to be rising, and yet inflation remains neutral in this administration..I don't get it. Can someone explain how they figure this?
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:25 PM
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28. inf.in NECESSITIES:profits
Inflation in Necessities is often greater than overall inflation.

You are chatting about Necessities.

IIN is a Democratic party concept.
Of little interest to our media.

Inflation has been excused by posters above for various reasons... like price of oil.

But if you had price controls, as in WW2, prices would never rise.

Black markets could be avoided with modern scannable product stickons, for both the products and the ration coupons that were used in WW2. Every penny could be traceable... no black markets possible.

Ok, have at it, you critics! This could be messy. LOL. I cant head off every criticism right now.. but be assured that every criticism you have in mind, is defeatable. Just play devil's advocate to the criticism in your head right now, and you will see what i mean.

Say good by to all inflation, --- at least such is possible.
Whether or not President Kerry will do such.
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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:29 PM
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29. Yes,
I'm paying over 4 bucks a gallon for milk. Gas here in CT is 2.09 for regular. I don't know about the rest. I haven't been paying much attention to those products.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:48 PM
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31. YES !
MILK ESPECIALLY!
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 07:00 PM
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32. it all goes back to the gas prices
higher gas prices means higher shipping costs for everything. Those higher costs are then passed on to the consumer.

It's simple economics, which, I guess, is why this administration can't understand.
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