see great discussion about abuse/torture at salon's table talk

bobbieinok

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Fri May-07-04 07:30 PM
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see great discussion about abuse/torture at salon's table talk

http://tabletalk.salon.com/webx?14@75.EApta7dPd7S.3@.7739ff92/0

From #8

"The mantra from this administration's apparatchiks has been, "Out-source it." Well, they just out-sourced America's honour."

Above is a great quote from an op-ed by a former Army officer, named Peters, that appeared in a Baltimore newspaper.

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Fri May-07-04 07:34 PM
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1. They are spinning it as "abuse"

None of those thugs will breathe the word "torture".
What the hell do you call getting electrodes connected to your hands, head and genitals???? Getting a broomstick shoved into your rectum????

And now, we are being told that there are more...many more photos and videos--with sound, of rape and murder.

This is not abuse. This is torture. And it is incumbant on the Dems to keep the language accurate.

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bobbieinok

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Fri May-07-04 07:40 PM
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2. from table talk #44 or 45

From a link to the LAT - discussing problems with Iraq and US prisons -
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But again, we are deluding ourselves. The hard fact is that the U.S. did install in Iraq an American-style approach to prison management. Like the U.S. prison system, it is underfunded and inadequately supervised, lacks civilian oversight and accountability and is secretive and tolerant of inmate abuse until evidence of mistreatment is pushed into the public light. That, regrettably, is the American model.

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