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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:14 PM
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WTF (Drudge) Guards raping young boys
What the hell is going on over there? You know after hearing about all of this, I believe what Kerry said in 1970 about U.S. war crimes. I dare pukes like Hannity to say otherwise. Americans have one last chance to show how stupid some of them are, If Bush is not impeached after this then I give up.


Unreleased images showed U.S. soldiers severely beating Iraqi prisoner nearly to death, having sex with a female Iraqi female prisoner and 'acting inappropriately with a dead body.' Also a videotape, apparently shot by U.S. personnel, showing guards raping young boys... Developing...
http://drudgereport.com/
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:18 PM
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1. I think the whole Republican party should resign
And to think Clinton was impeached for consensual sex with an adult female who propositioned him.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:20 PM
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2. I hate to say it , but, you might as well give up....
In 230 years, there have only been articles of impeachment against two president (to my memory). With Denny Hastert running the House and Bill Frist running the Senate, there will be no impeachment. Not in this session of congress, unless they catch Bush in bed with a dead woman or a live man (to steal a line from Huey Long).

I know its not right, I know its not fair, but thats not how it works. Shrub will not be impeached. His party is in the majority and to impeach him would destroy that.

Besides, even if they did, is Cheney any better? How about Hastert (next in line)? I'd rather run against the Chimp-in-Chief-at least we know our guy is smarter than he is.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:20 PM
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3. Oh, Jesus.
Taking Drudge with the requisite grains of salt, of course, I was afraid that was what the video was. There was so much in the news today that seemed to be hinting at it, like the Senator (was it Levin?) who mentioned that there was sound on the video and that it was very, very bad.

And now we've got necrophilia on video? I can't take this.

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malachibk Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:23 PM
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5. NECROPHILIA?!?!
Where the fuck did you hear that?!?! Are you kidding me? Were they raping dead boys? WHAT???? I can't even wrap my mind around that.
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Comadreja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:50 PM
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16. Mutilation, more likely
How is Rush gonna spin this one?

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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:00 AM
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19. I heard it was people posing for photos with a dead body
just another frat stunt, no?
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:50 AM
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22. College shenanigans!
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 02:53 AM
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23. Like Weekend at Bernies
Like that movie, where bodies don't decompose for weeks. Just blowing off steam. You know - Good old american funstuff!
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:23 PM
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4. I seriously doubt this..
all of the hoopla about the images released last week has probably created thousands of internet copycats, hoping to get their fifteen minutes of fame. There are probably thousands of fake images circulating around, and a few could easily leak into the mainstream media. The torture and beatings, I believe...raping a boy...no way...it's too much of an exaggeration.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:26 PM
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9. I believe it. Rumsfeld said that there were more images to come
including video. He said that the images were horrific or something like that. What could be more horrific than what we have already seen?

This description sounds like what Rumsfeld was saying.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:01 AM
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20. Rumsfeld didn't mince words
He made it clear they were sadistic and gruesome and horrible
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:24 PM
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6. the text says Iraqi guards raping
while US personnel videotaped.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 04:26 AM
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24. Aiding and abetting
In law, both parties would be considered equally culpable of the same crime. How cold blooded could anyone be, to sit and tape the rape of a teenage boy.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:24 PM
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7. I thought I saw something about the US using truck drivers and other
Iraqis as prison guards.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:25 PM
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8. Iraqi guards, huh?
Any thing we can do to get the focus off the Americans??
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:27 PM
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10. Why would you be so stupid
to video tape this stuff?
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malachibk Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:21 AM
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27. Why would you be so stupid to DO THIS STUFF?
That's the better question
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:27 PM
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11. Why would you be so stupid
to video tape this stuff?
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elf Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:35 PM
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15. Radioactive
That's what Rumsfeld called the material which is still out there.

For me it sounded like a warning to everyone not to bring it out, or else..............!

Even more disgust and hatred, or does he fear that the election will be lost for sure then!!!???
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:54 PM
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17. Stupid People are everywhere
but its a good point... it implies that this is just the tip of the iceberg. For every moran who takes pictures or videos or abuse, torture or rape there are probably dozens more doing the same thing but realize that it would not be a good idea to record the activity.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 09:45 AM
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25. IMHO the taping/photos is part of the torture, designed to humiliate n/t
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Captain_Chaos Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:28 PM
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12. It's horrible and sick and disgusting,
but we can't let the media and the Right wing wackos sweep it under the rug (as they will soon be attempting to do). Every time you talk to a repug, bring it up "Well Bush let it happen." Hammer it home.

Let the bastards know that we aren't going to forget, no matter how horrible it is to all of us.

The future of this country depends on our continued attention to this administration's mismanagement of this and every other debacle.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:31 PM
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What you said, Captain. Here's how to let 'em know we won't forget:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:53 PM
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28. Hi Captain_Chaos!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:29 PM
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13. Drudge is a pimp
Where was his Developing crap when it was floating around in 2003?

Now he's reporting this? This is now old news.

Preferential reporting. Typical shill.
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AbbeyRoad Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:31 PM
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14. Dear God..
Edited on Fri May-07-04 10:34 PM by AbbeyRoad
This is all so vile and tragic.

How trivial does the furor over the American public's glimpse of a woman's breast during the Super Bowl half time show seem now?

I'm sure this country's puritanic sensibilities will be shocked and this time rightly so.
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One Taste Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 11:02 PM
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18. Credible link
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4855930/

"Rumsfeld did not describe the photos, but U.S. military officials told NBC News that the unreleased images showed U.S. soldiers severely beating an Iraqi prisoner nearly to death, having sex with a female Iraqi female prisoner and “acting inappropriately with a dead body.” The officials said there was also a videotape, apparently shot by U.S. personnel, showing Iraqi guards raping young boys."
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:47 AM
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21. can you imagine the irreparable harm something like this . . .
does to a young person? . . . and the absolute lifelong hatred (fully justified, I might add) that these kids will have for America and Americans? . . . the photos already released disgusted me . . . reading about troops raping young boys makes me want to kill someone myself . . .
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:16 AM
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26. Can't wait to hear Hannity's spin on these new photos.
He keeps saying that the prison torture was just an "isolated" incident.
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