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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:33 AM
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WHY is the Bush administration/PNAC connection never mentioned on TV?
Ive wondered it for a looong time. Im sure they all know about it. Cant be that its too vague............has all the main suspects as signatores....Ive been waqiting for Paul Begala or someone simular to mention in but it never happens.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:34 AM
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1. They'll probably
lose their jobs if they bring it up.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:36 AM
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2. Too complicated for the average viewer
Can't be drawn in a simple word picture.
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:38 AM
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3. Who do you think owns the TV stations?
Who do oyou think controls the media in this country?
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:40 AM
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4. That would require the media to do a small bit of research.
Edited on Sat May-08-04 12:40 AM by Redleg
It might take all of 30 minutes to read the manifesto and other stuff on the PNAC website. Hey, big media stars don't have time for that shit- they got to get their hair styled and teeth whitened.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:40 AM
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5. Two explanations, both are valid
Edited on Sat May-08-04 12:41 AM by lapfog_1
First is that folks in control of the major media outlets are likely
PNACers themselves (or at least, agree with the principles).

Second is that it is a complicated set of foreign policy theories
to outline for the "sound bite generation". Can't be explained in
1 to 2 minutes. Not to mention that PNAC history, it's connections
to Jewish Zionists and the Likud party, it's current memberships,
their stated goals and so on... it's a big story, and it smacks of
conspiracy (add LIHOP or MIHOP to the equation with the needed
"new Pearl Harbor event"... and that is too much for a current set
of TV guys). Not to mention that getting the PNACers on record, in
interviews, being candid is likely very hard. There simply won't be
any video... only talking heads and printed documents.

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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:48 AM
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6. but ...... everyone who heads the administration is PNAC
So every time they talk, a PNACer is talking.

I, too, am baffled at how this has been ignored by the media. Even this corporate media.

And David Frum's reaction to the mention of PNAC is something I can't forget. He got very nervous and said "PNAC is just three guys in a room".

It's all very very very weird.

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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:20 AM
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11. Yes

every time Wolfie testifies and says that there are about 500 casualties
in IRAQ with 350 KIA... off by almost a factor of two, and every time
Cheney speaks, and Rummy and the rest, it's part of the PNAC cabal.

But they don't reference PNAC anymore, it was only "formalized" when
these guys were out of power, to give them a collective "base" from
which to try to influence the Clinton foreign policy (and put forth
their ideas into the think tank discussions)... This is because if
someone with the name of the "Defense Policy Review" or some such
writes a paper, it sounds so much more official than if Dick and Joe
wrote this paper.

I'm not much given to conspiracy theories, BUT... it strikes me
that 9/11 was definitely LIHOP, if not MIHOP. And it strikes me
that people who might investigate 9/11 and the Saudi connection and
PNAC might well have been partially targeted by some errant Anthrax.
And it strikes me that some very subtle hints were dropped that
worse could happen if major media figures (not the owners, who are
on board with the PNAC goals, but the reporters and editors) started
reporting things not favorable to the administration. Can't happen?

Well, has anyone ever been arrested or even credibly investigated
on the Anthrax attacks? And yet, within a day after 9/11, we had
the names and histories of almost every terrorist. Amazing.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:52 AM
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7. It's not on often, but it has been covered well. On PBS's Frontline.
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pacifictiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:53 AM
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8. the only one I've seen was
Bill Moyers on PBS
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 05:02 AM
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13. It was on Nightline, too
nm
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:07 AM
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9. Can't fit the PNAC history into a 2 minute TV news report
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 02:10 PM
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17. there's always the 4 minute noise tune
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:09 AM
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10. WHo controls what is on TV?
does anyone know for certain, officially? Is iyt just what sells? Who is the gatekeeper for television.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 04:20 AM
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12. taking it one step further . . .
why is the PNAC connection to the philosophies of Leo Strauss never discussed? . . . pretty scary stuff there . . . and it's now the philosophical basis for neo-conservatism as practiced by BushCo and, therefore, the underlying basis of American foreign and domestic policy . . .
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 02:05 PM
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15. Streaming Video Link of previous aired "Frontline":
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 02:09 PM
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16. Chris Matthews has mentioned it
:)
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 02:19 PM
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18. Because raising it in the US media invites the ridicule
of being called a "conspiracy theorist." And no one wants to be called that.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 02:23 PM
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19. Well, Wes Clark Mentioned It Several Times
but he's a Republican so it didn't matter :eyes:
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swinney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 03:11 PM
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20. pnac valid question--try Bush "gang"
Ask any friends what is pnac.
It is not known by the public.

I blame democratic spokesmen for not screaming "The pnac Gang headed by Bush"

Bush Gang. When will Kerry hit the Bush Gang. When will tv spokesmen use it Bush Gang.

It denotes Mob.

It denotes evil.

Kerry was correct to go after Cheney.

He must group all of them into a Bush Gang.

Bush Gang
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 03:35 PM
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21. He is a true neocon and they should refer to him as such n/t
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 03:47 PM
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22. PNAC is "the man behind the curtain"
First..the "public" has been trained to only listen in 2 minute "soundbytes." PNAC can't be explained in brief.

PNAC must never be mentioned, otherwise the whole neocon/republican pomgram is exposed.
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