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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:40 AM
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Limbaugh: "Prison Abuse Brilliant"
On his May 6 radio show, Rush Limbaugh continued to defend U.S. military personnel accused of abusing Iraqi prisoners, comparing the abuse photos to "good old American pornography":

LIMBAUGH: All right, so we're at war with these people. And they're in a prison where they're being softened up for interrogation. And we hear that the most humiliating thing you can do is make one Arab male disrobe in front of another. Sounds to me like it's pretty thoughtful. Sounds to me in the context of war this is pretty good intimidation -- and especially if you put a woman in front of them and then spread those pictures around the Arab world. And we're sitting here, "Oh my God, they're gonna hate us! Oh no! What are they gonna think of us?" I think maybe the other perspective needs to be at least considered. Maybe they're gonna think we are serious. Maybe they're gonna think we mean it this time. Maybe they're gonna think we're not gonna kowtow to them. Maybe the people who ordered this are pretty smart. Maybe the people who executed this pulled off a brilliant maneuver. Nobody got hurt. Nobody got physically injured. But boy there was a lot of humiliation of people who are trying to kill us -- in ways they hold dear. Sounds pretty effective to me if you look at us in the right context.

Still, Limbaugh says it's no different from a pop concert or homoerotic pornography:

LIMBAUGH: The thing though that continually amazes -- here we have these pictures of homoeroticism that look like standard good old American pornography, the Britney Spears or Madonna concerts or whatever, and yet the Libs upset about the mistreatment of these prisoners thought nothing of sitting back while mass graves were being filled with three to 500,000 Iraqis during the Saddam Hussein regime.

On his May 5 show, Limbaugh attributed the American public's outrage over the allegations to "feminization":

LIMBAUGH: I think a lot of the American culture is being feminized. I think the reaction to the stupid torture is an example of the feminization of this country.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200405070002
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:41 AM
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1. Father Coughlin didn't know when to shut up either
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:43 AM
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4. True, Mr. Tuttle
If these reptiles were looking for a ditch to die in, they have selected an excellent one....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:50 AM
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12. He's getting practiced at the art of denial
This is significant. The Right wing has officially become a train wreck in slow motion.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:42 AM
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2. Yeah Rush, except many people who are much smarter than you
have decided it's a war crime. Let's take their word for it, huh?
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:43 AM
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3. Shows you what hillbilly heroin does to the noggin
It really screws it up. Who really cares what a neocon drug addict thinks anyway . . . It's what the REAL world thinks that counts . . .

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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:44 AM
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5. We're at war with these people? Or LIBERATING them?
There are SO many things the US did to set this situation up so that it almost had to happen - but one of the worst is the dual role of "liberating" and "fighting" the same people.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:45 AM
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6. I'd like to hear more from Limbaugh...
and his personal experience with homoerotic pornography.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 09:54 AM
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48. Hmmm, Did Jeff Christie walk on the WILD side?????
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:45 AM
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7. You know what should happen to Limbaugh?
A big fat, grueling IRS audit!
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:47 AM
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8. I love it when they hang themselves with their own rope
his listeners are too stoopid to realize, though
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digno dave Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 02:28 AM
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35. he's lost some supporters with this lunacy...
I was listening the other day...on Tuesday i believe, before the info about the rape/murder images came out. I guess he was so caught up in damage control that he didn't realize there could be more to the situation than hooded nudies parading around the jail corridors.
This was the day when he drew the "frat-prank" analogy. A self proclamed "Christian Conservative, true Rush beleiver" called in and took issue with that analogy. She said theis was the first time EVER that she had disagreed with the his holy dipshitness. He tried to reel her back in but i think she was truly disgusted by the whole thing. And now there's more. I guess frat pranks now include murder, rape and sodomy.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 09:32 AM
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44. A rushbot at my workplace is also sobering up, Dave.
Several rushbots, in fact. And it is the photos that are doing it -- I am sure that just words and descriptions by The Red Cross, Amnesty Int., would not have done the job. They have had their faces pushed into a pile of steaming dogshit, and they are finally getting the message. Some of them, anyway.

Oh, yeah, and wait til the rape and snuff videos surface, and the old lady as a donkey video. Only hardcore assholes (and there are still plenty of them, unfortunately) will be able to defend THAT shit.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:47 AM
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9. Let Limbaugh imagine a role reversal,
with American prisoners being treated that way by Iraqi captors.

Then see how good he thinks these images are.
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Geo55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:48 AM
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10. This guy is SICK or he's still poppin' oxy ...probably both
Here's Rush's take, from his Website:

"I'm sorry, folks. I'm sorry. Somebody has to provide a little levity here. This is not as serious as everybody is making it out to be. My gosh, we're all wringing our hands here. We act like, 'Okay let's just die,' you know? 'Let's just give up. What can we do to make these people feel better? Let's just pull out of there, and let's just go. Let's just become a neutral country. Let's just do that.' I mean, it's ridiculous. It's outrageous what's happening here, and it's not -- and it's not because I'm out of touch; it's because I am in touch, folks, that I can understand. This is a pure, media-generated story. I'm not saying it didn't happen; I'm saying the pictures aren't there, but this is being given more life than the Waco invasion got. This is being given more life than almost -- it's almost become an Oklahoma City-type thing. One more Bush sound bite, and the president continued explaining how real democracy works here."

Here's Rush's sociological evaluation of what really happened at Abu Ghraib, as quoted in a piece in The New Republic on Limbaughism:

"This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation, and we're going to ruin people's lives over it, and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time. You know, these people are being fired at every day. I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You heard of need to blow some steam off?"

Now, don't you feel like a dopey dittohead for letting a little outbreak of prisoner sadism bug you? These were just boys and girls blowing off steam during a stressful situation. Let's not make an international incident out of it, for crying out loud.

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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:59 AM
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14. I repeat, let Limbaugh imagine a role reversal.
Edited on Sat May-08-04 01:01 AM by elperromagico
Apparently he can't imagine the reaction of an American parent to see his/her children being treated in a similar way.

This is more than just a prank. This is an embarrassment and a humiliation to those who are suffering in this way. It is a shame to their parents.

He is incapable of understanding any perspective but his own, because he is a selfish bastard. He cares about no one but himself, and is interested only in personal enrichment. Perhaps a bit of suffering in his life would make him understand...
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Geo55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:05 AM
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21. Holy S*it
I just re-read my post (partly 'cause I can't believe it) , but this grabbed me "I'm saying the pictures aren't there"
It's not a typo...I checked his site...is this a subliminal message to the d#ckheads...I mean dittoheads???
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:07 AM
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24. He'll eat those words if he makes it through a retaliatory attack
on US soil.

Don't these idiots understand they have left us wide open to terrorism? If terrorists didn't have a reason before, they certainly have found one now.

After reading tonight the latest stories about the abuse in that prison, I am now very fearful of retaliation.

There is no way to articulate my anger, frustration and hatred for this mal-administration, and the Rush-enablers.


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Geo55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:19 AM
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31. Your probably right
"After reading tonight the latest stories about the abuse in that prison, I am now very fearful of retaliation."

We are going to be attacked.....just like the shrubby crew salivates for...then they can say they were right.
Ever heard of the school yard bully that incites violence by picking on the weak kid ?
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:14 AM
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27. I'd like to see.............
Limpballs go to prison over his drug shopping charge. Then, as he is getting his salad tossed in prison have a guard explain that it's just the prison's way of "letting off a little steam". No big deal Rushbo, just harmless fun for the inmates and guards. He'd be crying and screaming, telling EVERYONE what torture it is within the prison system.
Limbaugh is the most vile POS on the airwaves. I only hope that some sort of Karmic justice catches up with him.
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Geo55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:23 AM
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32. I only hope that some sort of Karmic justice catches up with him.
My fav....what goes around , comes around....
good for Rushbo ,
bad for Amerika
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 03:00 AM
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37. Limpballs would be........
The fat guy who didn't make it through the first night in "Shawshank Redemption."
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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 03:09 AM
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38. eeewwww!
NOBODY would toss rush's salad!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:49 AM
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11. "Nobody got physically injured" - except the people beaten to death
"Nobody got physically injured"


Iraqui prisoners were beaten to death. One of the original photos is of a corpse.

How can Rush Limbaugh say that?
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:56 AM
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13. Methinks he will be
back pedaling soon if the new pictures hit the airwaves. How does a Rush eat crow??? :bounce:
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:00 AM
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16. A Rush doesn't eat crow. A Rush pretends he was right all along.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:05 AM
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22. firstly, there is the photo of the man who was beaten to death already,
Firstly, there is the photo of the man who was beaten to death already.

Secondly, things happen which aren't photgraphed.

There are 24 prisoner deaths at the hands of the US under investigation.

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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:12 AM
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25. And just why were the torturers wearing rubber gloves? n/t
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LastDemocratInSC Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:19 AM
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30. Methinks he won't
Limbaugh knows that his minions will drop him in a second if he does that. He knows that his status and wealth and power exists only so long as he tells his ditto-monkeys what they want to hear. He is as disposable as a soiled diaper.

The quickest way for Limbaugh to return to his top-40 turntable past is to have a few moments of heart-felt contrition and honesty.
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:04 AM
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18. jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:25 AM
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34. And what about all the injuries and deaths
when al Qaeda undertakes their revenge?

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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:00 AM
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15. And this is your brain on drugs
any questions?
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:03 AM
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17. How is Rush gonna spin this?
Rumsfeld did not describe the photos, but U.S. military officials told NBC News that the unreleased images showed U.S. soldiers severely beating an Iraqi prisoner nearly to death, having sex with a female Iraqi female prisoner and “acting inappropriately with a dead body.” The officials said there was also a videotape, apparently shot by U.S. personnel, showing Iraqi guards raping young boys.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4855930/

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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:04 AM
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19. I think if Rush were challenged to a fistfight
by some of the "feminized" Dems and libs he speaks of, he might be a little less reluctant to attack us for that quality.

I, personally, would beat his slimy ass into the dirt, and I am just in the mood to do it. I am tired of being told that, because I have compassion for my fellow man, I am somehow "sissified."
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:16 AM
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29. he would cowar
wouldnt even know how to raise his fists to fight

no mommy make them stop
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 03:40 AM
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40. This is the guy who got a draft deferment
for a cyst on his ass

because he is a big fat Chickenhawk!
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 09:40 AM
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45. I could take that fat f*ck down, too, and I'm a 50-yr-old female.
It enrages me that he uses 'feminized' as some sort of slur in the first place. Maybe if all these assholes weren't such 'manly men,' we wouldn't be in this predicament in the first place. Bastard. I could tear his liver out and eat it raw. At least I save that sort of hatred for the truly evil and depraved like Bush, Rush and company, not for some poor Muslim people picked up by the cops for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 10:12 AM
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53. Can I help
I am not by nature a violent woman-but he provokes the same reaction in me.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:05 AM
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20. Hey, he stole my coined term "homoeroticism". I fucking coined
Edited on Sat May-08-04 01:09 AM by 9215
that term!!! The bastid stole it!!


Other than that I don't think Jeff Christie/Rush Limbaugh knows the difference between consensual homoeroticism and the other kind. To Rush it is all the same, like the rest of his life. He is gay and in denial.
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Point_n_click Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:07 AM
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23. "Nobody got hurt. Nobody got physically injured."
I'm expecting Rush to be seriously overstuffed by eating these words once the evidence comes out about the rapes and murders that are only now being hinted at.

If those things turn out to be true and come out soon I hope as many folks as possible can call his show and remind him of his words.

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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:14 AM
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26. There are no words for the hatred and disdain I feel toward this man.
Rush Limbaugh is a sickening, fascist fool.
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LastDemocratInSC Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:15 AM
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28. Please ignore, I responded to the wrong message
Edited on Sat May-08-04 01:19 AM by LastDemocratInSC
On edit - I shouldn't post after having my two best friends over for a late dinner - Ernest and Julio Gallo.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:23 AM
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33. Rush is obviously mentally ill.
Only a profoundly sick person would say the things that he is saying.
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FrankBooth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 02:39 AM
Response to Reply #33
36. Yes he is
He is out of his mind.

Did you notice that he actually admitted that it was "torture," not abuse. (If the transcription is correct.)
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hasbro Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 03:21 AM
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39. I find hazing reprehensible to begin with
"This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation" Except these victims don't have the reward of binge drinking and circle jerks to look forward to.

I hope Rush gets a prison sentence to be taught the meaning of irony.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 04:16 AM
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41. So now a half naked Brittany Spears and
Madonna are OK???? :wtf: I thought they didn't go for that kind of smut, bunch of dumb ass hypocrites. :argh:
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 04:18 AM
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42. ugh
They should put rush in a psa as an example of why you shouldn't abuse oxycontin...
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 04:20 AM
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43. when does he go to prison
for his drug crimes?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 09:46 AM
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46. Rush Limbaugh on Armed Forces Network is a big part of the problem
An arrogant propagandist, spewing hate and intolerance, can only create bad listening habits for our troops. It was a mistake to permit him on Armed Forces Network.
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 09:52 AM
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47. Remember "Jimmy the Greek"?
He got fired for making less racist and hateful comments than this.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 09:58 AM
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49. We need to be sure and thank David Brocke for starting Media Matters
web site. It's a great site that exposes the fucking lies of the radical right.............
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Cogito ergo doleo Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 09:58 AM
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50. The more he talks
the worse it gets. He is imploding and it is a beautiful sight!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 10:02 AM
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51. Would Rush prefer to be humiliated or executed?
He thinks humiliation is better, at least for other people... But I'd like to ask him, if given the choice of death or humiliation, which would he prefer? (And I think there are lots of ways that Rush could be humiliated, none of which involve his ILLEGAL drug abuse for which he will never go to jail for, unlike anybody else...)

He's using that example against the 500,000 Iraqis under Saddam's regime - a lot of which happened when the US was FRIENDS with the Saddam regime (Reagan/Poppy Poopypants), which we allowed him to freely continue to do after the First Gulf War, thank you Poppy Poopypants... x(

Rush is spinning (things) out of control. He's saying this atrocity is justified as it's a precursor to interrogation. Well, thanks to little Libbie England (I'm not taking time to find the whore's real name) and her buddy grinning and such in half those pictures, I'm doubtful this had anything to do with interrogation. Even if it did, it's still WRONG.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 10:08 AM
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52. Oxydittos to Rush for coming up with "republican torture pranks."
I have found this phrase to be very useful.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 10:15 AM
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54. Good old American homoeroticism
Glad to see Rush finally sticking up for gay sex. :crazy:
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Misinformed01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 10:16 AM
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55. The sad musings of a drugged mind
How can anyone listen to his sick drivel anymore?

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