Who asked General Myers to call CBS ?

Or do you think he did it on his own. I seriously doubt it. Someone knew how damaging this would be and attempted to get CBS not to publicize it. To their credit, they studied the merits of the argument about national security and decided it was more in the interests of the people to know the truth. A win for the free press.

Also, it was reported in some news story that when the prisoners were brought into Abu Ghraib prison, they already had their handcuffs on and the bags over their heads. Perhaps it is an insignificant detail, but someone other than the prison guards put the cuffs and bags on the prisoners. Just to point out the fact that there were more than six or seven people involved in these tortures/abuses...

that he did this on his own. That he did it to protect the troops because of the heated situation in Falluja and that Rummie and Bu$h didn't know he called CBS.

Harry Truman fired a god for the same thing. it`s called insubordination-generals do not publicly disagree with the president at a time of war. bush should fire him-bush has no balls

how did he know they had the pictures?

Did someone at CBS call him and ask for permission?

CBS already knew that Sy Hersh had the Taguba Report, suggesting there are networks of communication within the media, regardless what we may think about it. Are there also lines of communication between the media and the military and/or the administration?

If CBS placed the call, why to Myers and not Rumsfeld?

Did Myers call Rumsfeld at the time/after the fact, or did he keep even his actions secret from Donny? If so, why? If not, when did Rumsfeld know?

If Rumsfeld knew, why didn't he act? Why didn't he immediately demand to see the photos and/or the report?

Again, this bullshit of not knowing what was going on is driving me up the freakin' wall.

1. Whatever the scandal was, the DoD knew it was important enough to send out a press release back in January. Do they send out press releases on each and every one of the 18,000 courts-martial held each year? I sincerely doubt it. That means this particular case was SPECIAL ENOUGH to generate a press release, meaning the DoD WANTED press coverage. Makes you kinda go hmmmmmmmmm, don't it?

2. Whatever the scandal was, the investigation was assigned pretty high up in the chain of command. As I said in another post, someone called in a general, Taguba, to do the investigation. It's not like this was working its way slowly from Specialists and Sergeants (or whatever military ranks are these days) up to Lieutenants and Captains. It had already reached General level.

3. Rummy & Co. knew that the pictures had been released by CBS over a week ago. Why on this tormented earth did they wait over a week to even look at the photos? And are we certain they've seen the other photos and the video? Are they saying such photos and videos exist but aren't in DoD custody yet and we're only dealing with rumors, or do they actually have said pix and vids in hand?

4. Another media report -- I have it in my files but am too stressed right now to find and reference it -- said that troops in Iraq regularly took photos, emailed them home, and circulated them among friends. I find it difficult to believe there were only one or two CDs with these photos on them, and I find it even more difficult to believe Rummy & Myers, et al, are so cyber-stupid that they don't remotely understand the facility with which multiple copies can be made and circulated and archived. Sure there is SOMEONE on their staffs to explain this to them. That said, surely they understand the possibility of hundreds, thousands, of these things ending up on the net and making their way into the hands of "the enemy."

5. The fact that such a disk, such pictures, such videos have NOT fallen into the hands of, say, al-Jazeera, makes me just a tad bit suspicious. Of what? I don't know yet. And it's the unknown knowns -- or is that known unknowns? -- that'll bite you in the ass every time.

This thing STINKS to high heaven. I personally think virtually no truths have been told. I think every word out of their lying mouths has been a lie.

But I'm just a very angry

Tansy Gold

I guess he's waiting for it to come out on DVD?

All kidding aside, that's a great list of questions, I wish someone in Congress had balls and more than 5 minutes to ask them.

I think they have just scratched the surface...

to the many questions that are being ignored for obvious reasons. And those obvious reasons are to protect junior.

The one question that I wanted to hear yesterday is why we didn't hear a word from Dick Cheney, and where was Dick Cheney during this fiasco? Did Dick Cheney know what was going on in Abu Ghraib? I was even more suspicious of the timing and of his phony journey to Asia.

'Tis amazing how quiet Cheney is during this firestorm. Perhaps you can help me?

I don't expect to hear from him on this, at least not yet. Does he know stuff? Sure. But he's not in the string, so to speak.

As many folks have posted here on DU, there were many reports and allegations of abuse at Abu Ghraib for months. The allegations were not secret; the Pentagon didn't seem to be responding, however.

But then in January something happened. I don't know what it was. Was it email from hackworth to someone in DoD? :shrug: I dunno.

But in January, the DoD sent out a press release regarding the allegations of abuse. Unlike Rummy's undifferentiated 18,000 courts-martial a year that warrant no attention on his part and no notice to the media, SOMETHING sparked the DoD to issue that press release. CNN picked up on it, because we have their report, but who else?

Did CBS pick up on it then, could they have been in contact with Myers about it? Did someone in DoD leak information to CBS? Did Sy Hersh pick up on it from the CNN report and/or the DoD press release?

Nothing happens without a reason. There are motivations for everything we humans do, even if we don't consciously know what those motivations are at the time. But I suspect the actors in this little drama were very conscious of what they were doing and why.

Again, no one in the government is asking the right questions. I'm not even sure the media is.

Because if they were asking the right questions, we'd be getting answers.

And we ain't.

with the possible exception of Powell knew about the torture of the prisoners and the time span between January and when the pictures came out on CBS was because they were working on how to keep this secret. I don't believe that Rumsfeld hasn't watched the video, I don't believe that bush hasn't watched the video, I don't believe any of them on anything!

but they've probably already jacked off to the video.

administration that would make your comment a very real possibility and the world sees it and is disgusted by it. If the US public doesn't throw bush and his henchmen out in November it will say that the people of the US approves of all they have done and the consequences will be dire for the US, imo.