Sexual perversion. Where the American public draws the line.

"Inmates tortured at Abu Ghraib prison. American troops shown on photos standing close by while Iraqi civilians are forced into sexually humiliating positions.

New revelations by Donald Rumsfeld that 'the worst is yet to come'. Apparently, there is yet more damning evidence to come which according to rumsfeld, 'perverse, sadistic and inhuman'.

The American public is quite tolerant. They have endured a war which the majority was opposed to. With new revelations, it has been found that we lacked solid reasons for going to war, and yet support continues.

The new revelations about torture uncovered in Iraq and Afghanistan puts a whole new slant on the war. It's one thing to read about torture and abuse, but when you actually see the photos, they're shocking. To see a female GI standing next to a naked man on the floor with a dog collar around his neck takes one's breath away.

Americans may not mind death and mayhem, but they are prudes. I call it the "Queen Victoria Carryover". The one thing they will not tolerate is sexual perversion, in particular when it is aired all over the world. That is where you cross the line.

And this is what Don Rumsfeld knows. You could see it in his eyes, as he testified Friday. He knows he cannot survive the next onslaught, which he promised would be "far worse".

Bush probably knows this, too.

Your thoughts, please.

Had some of the women in those photos been dressed in corsets and thigh-high spike heeled boots instead of military-issue BDUs, the howls for censorship by the Freepers, racists, and Holy Joes here in the USA would have been heard all the way around the planet.

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I'm getting out my proverbial whetstone to make sure the political knives I'm throwing will be able to sink into bone :evilgrin:. I hate this kind of torture, but I have NO problem with taking advantage of those bastards' hubris. "Pride goeth before the fall."

I think he was shoved on stage in a desperate attempt to soften the blow of further unspeakable revelations.

Whatever is yet to be revealed must be so horrendous as to make the disgusting photos we have already seen seem tame in comparison.

Rumsfeld is the sacrificial lamb to divert the wrath that should go to the White House.

First of all, the reason sex screams louder than other scandals is because we UNDERSTAND it. Even the most unintelligent, ignorant, backasswards person understands SEX. It causes us to sit up, pay attention, and shush those around us so we can hear about it. (Thus the big het-up about Clinton--ANYONE can understand a BJ....not so much a savings and loan scandal, though...)

Other socio-economic-political issues aren't always so easy to understand.

The other theory....in America we are VERY conflicted about sex. On the one hand, it is used to sell almost EVERYTHING. It is flaunted and thrown about. BUT we are repulsed by it at the same time (the we is meant generally, I am an American, but I am not included in the repulsed group). So it's very conflicting attitude. We are like children who haven't resolved our toileting issues or something.

When one has a natural attitude towards sex, one isn't repulsed by it and also feels no need to flaunt it about and use it to get people's attention/sell things. Does this make sense?

I only discovered this after meeting my husband, who was raised mostly in Europe by a European father and American mother. He had one of the most mature attitudes towards human sexuality I had ever seen in a person and he taught me how to have that mature, natural attitude, too.

will still look the other way and find no blame . bush is their savior and he is never to blame,after all these people are terrorists and caused 9-11.