So has anything changed since the torture scandal broke?

DrWeird

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Sat May-08-04 04:12 PM
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So has anything changed since the torture scandal broke?

I haven't changed. I wasn't at all surprised. I doubt many other DUers were either, only thing different here is a lot more traffic and a little more resolve?

Has anybody spoken with somebody who is generally surprised and had their opinion changed?

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tridim

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Sat May-08-04 04:15 PM
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1. I'm afraid to ask my Bush loving parents

what they think about the torture because I'm afraid they'll say it was A-OK. :(

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bigwillq

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Sat May-08-04 04:16 PM
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2. "So has anything changed since the torture scandal broke?" No.

Shrub and Rummy are still stupid assholes.

As are the rest of that administration.

Rummy says he won't resign b/c people are trying to make it a 'political issue' and he thinks the Repukes wouldn't do the same.

Remember Clinton and how pushy those repukes got asking for Bill to resign.

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pebbles1

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Sat May-08-04 04:20 PM
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4. more so

70% of the country does not want him to resign.. go figure... watch him some how come out a hero in all of this

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mmonk

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Sat May-08-04 04:18 PM
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3. Nothing

except visable proof that something is definitely wrong for every American to see.

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Ms. Clio

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Sat May-08-04 04:34 PM
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5. I think one of my nearest and dearest is coming around

He supported the war and Bush, but he says there is no excuse for the torture and even suggested that the offenders should be punished by their victims.

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izzie

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Sat May-08-04 04:47 PM
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6. I guess more people hate us.

I am sure more Right wingers love Bush more and we are all here saying we told you so.

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BillZBubb

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Sat May-08-04 04:53 PM
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7. No change in the US.

I haven't met anybody who's position changed an iota because of this.

Internationally, it has no doubt hurt the US significantly among moderates.

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Kanary

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Sat May-08-04 04:56 PM
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8. I notice more people saying GET OUT NOW

The tide is turning, in that regard.

I'm disappointed that there isn't a HUGE uprising from the left. If there was any conscience in this country, things would have come to a stop, and everyone would have hit the streets.

Or... maybe I woke up in Germany.

Kanary

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RUMMYisFROSTED

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Sat May-08-04 05:04 PM
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9. Yep.

I include myself in that group. I understood the rationale for not abandoning Iraq(although not in harmony with it). No more.

Na-na-na-na
Na-na-na-na
Hey-hey
Goodbye

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Political_Junkie

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Sat May-08-04 05:07 PM
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11. I woke up in Germany

in December of 2000, nothing's changed here!

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Kanary

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Sat May-08-04 05:18 PM
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12. You're words brought the tears.

I know I said that first.

But, seeing it come back...... I think so many of us are trying to find adequate words to express the horror, and there just aren't any.

OUT NOW.

Kanary

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bobbieinok

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Sat May-08-04 05:04 PM
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10. there was a post last Sat from someone whose wife and SIL had gone

from lukewarm opponents of W to 'ready, able, and willing' to donate major $$ to get rid of W.

Anyone have the link?? It was long and detailed.

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