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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 06:20 PM Original message |
This torture scandal is another example of a sickness in the culture. |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. Sickness in the neocon right-wing culture that has so permeated |
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moof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. zowie, that post is wrong on a bunch of levels |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 06:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Explain yourself. You said nothing. |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 06:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. You mentioned "sadism and cruelty" flourishing in the military...... |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 06:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Take a look around you and tell me who is naiive. |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. I guess the ads coming out of Madison Ave are fairly......... |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 06:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Naive? |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. the World waits. |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
7. yes, there's a problem |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I see it as a product of the me generation. |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I dunno |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. of course... |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. "If it feels good; do it".......... |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. My analysis |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:29 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I'm assuming that you think that America....... |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Blaming American culture for violence as if we were the........ |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. To think of us as enlightened is delusional. |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Or, perhaps we should stop knocking ourselves down........ |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Taking our lumps is American |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Whiny-ass excuse making? |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
54. Whose crying? |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
9. Absolutely right! We are a VERY sick society. |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
53. Let's start by asking the American Indians when honor was in existence! |
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rainydaywoman (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
11. Polical Science Professor @ Penn State |
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Mattforclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
15. Grand Theft Auto and Marilyn Manson must be banned... |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I'd have to add Childbirth to your list........... |
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Mattforclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. That's an excellent idea... n/t |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. As a mother, I find your post boorish and offensive. |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. So sorry to have offended your delicate sensibilities........ |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. And what point is that? |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Where exactly does 'culture' come from?......... |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. You Sir, |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:43 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Idiot? |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I wouldn't know... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Violence is voluntary. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:59 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Deleted message |
scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 09:15 PM Response to Reply #50 |
85. The Cherokee did not practice scalping. |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 09:26 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Boorish, maybe........ |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 10:12 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. I didn't say they didn't engage in warfare. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. no, YOU didn't get it |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Uh-oh....... |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:04 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. You dont' understand "standards". |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:08 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Where exactly should I look for this 'absolute' ......... |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:14 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. You obviously |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Actually, it's more like I've paid attention to reality........ |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:20 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. The deluded |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. So that explains your attitude......... |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:23 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Sounds like Ollie North In the Iran/Contra hearings |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:25 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. I thought he used the old "I was just following orders" routine..... |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:26 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. We have free will |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:31 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. No doubt....... |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:34 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Why do we prosecute murderers? |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:35 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. I'm guessing that we prosecute murderers because...... |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:38 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. apparently you don't |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:45 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Please refrain from putting words anywhere near my mouth.... |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:47 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. No |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:49 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. You should read more closely........ |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:53 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. You should stop making excuses |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:57 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Which corner (morally or otherwise) do I now....... |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:59 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Yes it is |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 09:05 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. No it isn't.......... |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 09:07 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. To accept is to condone |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 09:11 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Sounds like a bumper-sticker to me......... |
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Pax Argent (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-04 12:02 AM Response to Reply #78 |
91. I agree with you |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. Thanks ever so much for reminding us that "liberal" = bad |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:22 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Liberal doesn't equal bad........ |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:27 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Use the talking points, I'll mention it. |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:32 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Those who live in glass houses.......... |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:59 PM Response to Reply #67 |
80. You expect us bad "libruls" to ignore your talking points? |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 09:10 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. My 'talking points'......... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. No one said anything about banning. The question is, WHY does our culture |
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Mattforclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. It's the culture of life |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. No it's not. It's a culture of death and violence. |
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Mattforclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:41 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Yes, I know |
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Pax Argent (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-04 12:24 AM Response to Reply #32 |
92. Once my forbears were hunters |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
21. The liberal anything goes culture |
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Curious Dave (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
24. Hate to Disagree... |
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BigDaddyLove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Your two cents in this case is worth millions.......... |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. It's not the "idiots" |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
29. Weekend Perspectives: America the brutal |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
37. Now let's see |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
39. Completely agree. But, you're going to get arguments here |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
45. The Corporate Culture |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:55 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Absolutely... |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. In that vein... |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. That's exactly right |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
71. It's not even violence so much as bullying |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:47 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Warrior culture can be highly honorable |
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laura888 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 11:09 PM Response to Reply #71 |
90. I thought of Columbine when I heard about the tortures |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
77. New Quarters Await Bush Cabinet |
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deacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
88. The buck stops with bush |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 11:07 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. I feel its good he stays on vacation so long. The more he stays |
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