Images of Iraqi Prisoners Used in Art 2 Months Ago "We knew what went on"

Images of Iraqi Prisoners Used in Art

Sat May 8, 3:56 PM ET
By HAMZA HENDAWI, Associated Press Writer
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040508/ap_on_en_ot/iraq_abuse_in_art_2

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The crouching man is naked, his hands tied and his head covered with a hood. The alabaster sculpture on display at a Baghdad gallery bears a striking resemblance to some of the shocking photographs that emerged last week of Iraqi prisoners abused by American guards at the Abu Ghraib prison.

But the 15-inch sculpture — with words "We are living American democracy" inscribed on its base — was fashioned two months ago.

"We knew what went on at Abu Ghraib," Abdul-Kareem Khalil, the artist, said Saturday. "The pictures did not surprise me."

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"We are not strangers to what the U.S. Army does," said Khalil, standing next to the statue of the naked man and two other alabaster sculptures also inspired by the occupation. "Our dignity cannot endure this humiliation. Anyone detained by the Americans is ready to join the resistance upon his release."


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Here are a couple more interesting stories:

More evidence US ignored abuse warnings
Saturday 08 May 2004, 23:16 Makka Time, 20:16 GMT

Iraq's former human rights minister Abd-al Basit Turki has said abuse of Iraqi prisoners had been going on at all US bases since the occupation began, with some taking place as recently as last week.

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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/E1418BBD-B929-447C-8EB8-8B4FEB61DA1A.htm

Israeli lessons for the US in Iraq
By Khalid Amayreh in the West Bank
Friday 07 May 2004, 2:48 Makka Time, 23:48 GMT

"It is not secret at all, there are many Israeli experts on torture in Iraq who are transferring to the Americans their accumulative experience of thirty seven years of torturing and mistreating Palestinians," al-Sanai told Aljazeera.net.

He said that American officers joined Israeli army units in Jenin several months ago for the purpose of learning Israeli methods and techniques of repressing civilians, which the Americans, he said, later applied in Iraq.

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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/C182D988-28E3-4D48-ADFC-F15D6509B0EC.htm

I keep hearing the asshole supporters of this war go on about Dubya's so called apology and how they haven't heard any apologies from Iraqi's for what happened to the four mercenaries. Has it occurred to anyone else that this incident may have been BECAUSE of what the Iraqi's already knew was happening in the prisons?

They have no government.

We KNOW the Red Cross and Amnesty International were trying to get some answers about this - LAST SUMMER. They weren't operating in a vacuum.

The mercs got their *apology* in the form of PAY BACK. If someone said they were sorry for what happened to the mercs, can we assume the Marines would never have begun the pacification of Falluja? And the subsequent full scale 'military effort' would have never happened?
Didn't think so.

Once the mercs' 'team members' killed thousands and destroyed a civilian city, someone still wants an apology?

Typical American narcissism.

Joe Lieberman saying that Iraq did not apologize to us for 9/11 (during the hearings)

She also made the comment I mentioned above. I barely know this woman and she walked in on a conversation I was having with someone else, started spouting all the RNC/Lieberman talking points. I set her straight, or at least shut her up by saying that yes, Saudi Arabia and the Bush administration certainly DID need to apologize for 9/11.

That is actually what made me start thinking about what I mentioned in my post above. Seems to me that they started releasing prisoners and the "insurgency" just got worse from there. Is this why? Victims of or witnesses to this torture getting out and telling others about the hell they just lived through?

edited for typo

You've probably also read that the torture orders reach hign into the admin. (Douglas Feith, OSP, Cheney). The answer to the question of WHY may now be coming into focus: An insurgency is exactly what the neocons WANT. It is their only hope to win the election. If they can keep the level of turmoil at a high level smirk gets to remain the war president.:puke:

Fomenting unrest has been a long proven strategy for the war profiteers. They have to continue to bleed the treasury dry. This is the best way of re-dircting the cash flow to their cronies, and keeping the constituency that is waiting for rapture, happy.

"You liberated us. Ok. Thank you! Go home," someone wrote in English."

"America is the plague," another one wrote.

"We are not strangers to what the U.S. Army does," said Khalil, standing next to the statue of the naked man and two other alabaster sculptures also inspired by the occupation. "Our dignity cannot endure this humiliation. Anyone detained by the Americans is ready to join the resistance upon his release."


Bush* is creating more terrorists. He* has said this will be a long war on terror.

Well, no duh about that! By creating scores more of terrorists, he'll happily shuffle his sword until he kills all the people he's riled up against him.

Does the American public realize what * is doing? Genocide. He hurts people, makes them mad, so when they have no recourse but to strike back with violence, Bush* turns around and calls them the troublemakers and that we were unprovoked! x( Shortly after 9/11, LIHOP and MIHOP came about. Stories about failed pipeline deals in Afghanistan and other issue surfaced. Hell, Cheney's energy meetings are STILL A SECRET - which is an utter insult, we have every fucking right to know what went on. The fact they use issues of national security as reasons not to diclose the information could suggest 9/11 was meant to be! We all know thanks to a recent article that LIHOP is confirmed, that's for sure. MIHOP isn't out of the question either.

were *created* by the US! The big daddy *terrorists*!
There's got to be a *devil* / *evil-axis* / *evildoers* in order to justify domination.
Need a war? Instant jihadist formula mix. Requires no refrigeration.
Forget about consumer protection.