Christ on the Cross: Our symbol of Torture

There is Jesus, nailed to a cross, bleeding, suffering, a spear stabbed into his side, left to die in agony all day and night. A constant reminder and graphic symbol of torture.

torture is instilled in our christian religion with this symbol and concept. christ, tortured for our sins, by the enemy. the godless people who tortured our lord will pay, all through history. the british made torture into an art form during the crusades, smiting and slaughtering the heathen muslims, who dared to believe in a false god.

the movie, 'the passion of christ' is two hours of christ being tortured in ever increasing splatter slasher movie style. blood flying everywhere, screaming, pieces of flesh flying around. it's a huge blockbuster, and the bornagains just love it.

we who claim to love christ the peacemaker, and who pretend to love our neighbors like he taught us, go forward to torture and explode and blow up and burn to death 'the least among us', as if we'd never learned a thing in sunday school.

ANYONE who gets into a debate with you over this torture issue, and takes the TORTURPOLOGIST stance, and who also claims to be a godly, christian person, should be called out verbally. 'HYPOCRITE!' 'NON-BELIEVER!'. they are no more a christian than adolph hitler was a christian.

put your argument into graphical practice...

I know you are good at it!

it's downright creepy how similar it is to the classic crucifixion symbol.

this is important...

that's the shortest passage in the bible. it refers to christ's suffering as he died under torture.

that would indeed make a good morphing symbol, the crucifix into that awful photo. i have to drink more of this god forsaken coffee before i can even think about it, plus i don't wanna miss sunday school

most excellent. that right there is the symbol. the romans standing around while jesus dies, tortured.

the photo of the tortured prisoner that is now burned into our memories forever is a dead on picture of christ on the cross, same positioning, just with a blanket and hood on.

very creepy world

this is now in wide release!

and they approve them because in thier brainwashed minds, that go to the ASSemblies of Gawd every Sunday, they believe that godless Muslims are lower than animals.

I try to talk with them, but their minds are closed. Reminds me of Frank Zappa's words:

"Those Jesus Freaks
Well, they're friendly, BUT
The Shit they believe
Has their minds all shut"

for a "gospel" written by evil men. They twist and distort the Gospel like Jesus must've writhed on the cross. But as He said, "by their fruits you shall know them" and the fruits on the date trees of Iraq are strange fruit indeed.

Last sentence with apologies to the late Ms. Billie Holliday.

I appreciate your arguments, but sincerely hope you do not believe Muslims worship a 'false god'. We worship the same God the Christians do-there is only one God. "Allah" is merely Arabic for "God"-if you read the Bible in Arabic, you'll find His name written as "Allah".

my mother too, is a fanatical christian, who believes all muslims are damned, and that allah is a false god. i reminded her that the jews, muslims, and christians essentially all worship the same god, but her ears are shut to bothersome things like facts.

she assisted me in becoming an atheist, although i support freedom of religion, cause i'm an american first.

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and was absolutely shocking, shocking I tell you, he used to do a stint that mocked religion. He would play the plastic Jesus song and also founded his own church, and called it the "Church of the Gooey Death"

and then he would go on a rant about taxes or hypocrisy.

...the denominations that have that symbol up on their walls are the ones most virulently opposed to the war. Much more so than any other religious group, Christian or non-Christian. So maybe you should think about that before painting a broad brush.

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VATICAN JOINS CRITICISM OF IRAQI PRISON ABUSE
Vatican, May. 06 (CWNews.com) - The Vatican's former chief foreign-policy official has joined the criticism of American treatment of Iraqi war prisoners. Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran told the Italian daily La Stampa warned that the international outrage provoked by photos of abuse would make it more difficult to build a lasting peace in the Middle East.

"When human dignity is trampled in this way, barriers are set up," the cardinal said. The shocking photos, he said, would have "a terrible impact on people-- not just among Arabs, but worldwide." The release of the photos, he said, has created a "very grave" new problem for peacekeeping efforts.
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The official Vatican newspaper made a similar point.

L'Osservatore Romano commented that while the abuse of prisoners had roused "the indignation of the world," that indignation was probably greatest in the United States. The American people, L'Osservatore said, would feel "most wounded" by the revelations of conduct that was "incompatible with the standards of a great democracy."

In his interview with La Stampa, Cardinal Tauran was asked to comment more broadly on the situation in Iraq. He replied htat "the Pope war right" to oppose US military action there. He explained that "the preventive war has not eliminated terrorism-- as we can see quite clearly today."

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http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=46218

of one of your posts?

" seems the most animated and loud when mentioning the fact that some idiots took photos. he seems to be repeating that THAT is the main problem, digital cameras fucking every thing up."
- mopaul
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1551234


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/07/iraq/main616290.shtml

now that blows my mind, especially that they left in the foul language!

the Protestant churches have traditionally displayed the EMPTY cross as a triumphant symbol of the price paid by Jesus, once for all, not ongoing suffering and torture. I realize that a general madness has taken control of almost all the Christian denominations in this country, but I have to believe that at some point, enough of them will come back to their senses to help us get rid of the current criminal administration.

No just a very visible minority. Most churches in this country banded together to oppose Bush's Iraq invasion. I have yet to attend a church that preached either liturgical or political right wing values to me and I have been to many churches.
You are right about the cross being empty. But you are wrong about the right wing madness taking over a majority of denominations. Stop buying the right wing lie that they own religion and everyone agrees with them.

The right wing Christian fundamentalists just shout and make a lot of noise. Christians who practice the teachings of their Master go about doing their work quietly.

this fellow isn't Christ?





PS: One small comment on your rant. Jesus was only on the cross for about 6 hours. That is why some christian sects believe that he didn't actually 'die' on the cross.

....been sayin' this over and over the last couple days...yet nobody responds...heh! :evilfrown:

"What you do to the least among you, you do to me."

For any Christian (fundamentalist or Catholic) to defend the prisoners' torture is the ULTIMATE hypocrisy.

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