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TheWizardOfMudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:50 AM
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Richard Perle on C-SPAN: SAYS HE IS A DEMOCRAT
Just a few minutes ago he described neoconservatism as "classic liberalism," and stated that he has been a democrat since he worked for Scoop Jackson in 1969.

You bet.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:51 AM
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1. Yeah, and I'm a prepubescent virgin.
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AussieInCA Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:58 AM
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2. lol, caller said he's a conservative and a fascist
Perle: "I don't wish to talk to this person"
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:01 PM
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7. He's definately not a conservative
in the traditional sense, he's a radical fascist.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:00 PM
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3. Isn't this simply a matter of public record?
they should check for a party registration card the same way they did with O'Reily.
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AussieInCA Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:00 PM
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4. freeper caller:eutopian think tanks pushing globalization
ah, earth to freeper..bushco is the one globalizing and shipping your jobs overseas.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:01 PM
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5. I am the King of France
Honest -- I am.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:01 PM
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6. Its cold as fuck down here!
Edited on Sun May-09-04 12:01 PM by name not needed
Satan took my earmuffs!
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AussieInCA Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:02 PM
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8. Perle dissing off brahimi now..he was in the arab league
Edited on Sun May-09-04 12:03 PM by AussieInCA
Chalabi should be doing it..LOL


Now Perle is making him a victim...cia don't like him, brahimi don't like him...lol
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AussieInCA Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:04 PM
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9. haha caller: you whipped everyone up fear monger
perle answer: you are demonizing me because you disagree with me
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:49 PM
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17. Demonizing you because you are a demon! Mofo! EOM
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:07 PM
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10. They're morphing....
remember that MANY "neocons"' roots are from within the
ultra-liberal branches of the democratic party... They're just coming
back since Kerry will eventually win.

Just watch and learn...
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:27 PM
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11. It doesn't mean we have to take them back.
They have thier roots with the radical neo-stalinist movement that was on the fringe of the Democratic Party in the late '60s.

Thier authoritarian totalitarianism went from stalinist to fascist by the back door.

Is David Horowitz going to come back too?
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:27 PM
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13. Careful....
They have used "Liberal Democracy" in the context of Iraq for a long time. It's a way of demonizing the language if the war doesn't go well. Don't fall for it.
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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:27 PM
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12. Perle called Scoop Jackson liberal?
HaHaHaHa...anyone can "claim" to be a democrat, but my guess is that you still probably voted for Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bushpa, Dole...

How many times have we heard "I'm a lifelong Democrat but..." yeah, right.

I s'pose Dicky-P considers Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan liberal, too...

Haele


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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:28 PM
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14. Compared to Bush...
Ronnie Reagan and Barry Goldwater ARE liberals.

And Nixon and Ike are radicals.

And T. Roosevelt is a communist.
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:38 PM
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15. I'm the Pope!
Sounds absurd doesn't it?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:47 PM
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16. He stepped down as top gun of PNAC, then didn't he just resign
from PNAC this week? Now, he says he is a Democrat.

We won't know exactly why he's doing this until it happens for sure, but he is either trying to save himself from prosecution or is going to try to get Congressional confirmation for something in the works.

He has dual citizenship - U.S. and Israel.

He is PNAC.

He is crazy.
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suzijane Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 01:02 PM
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21. Perle is a foreign agent
who should be in prison with Pollack. If he's a member of any party its the Likud Party in Israel. No one has done more to ensure that Bush/Cheney made decisions in the best interests of Israel (rather in the best interests of the US, as their oath of office requires.)I continue to believe that whatever the rationale that the neo-cons gave the moron in chief for invading Iraq, the hidden agenda was always to have US lives at risk and troops on the line somewhere in the region. As long as the US is fighting there, it forestalls any attempts from Muslim nations to unite in any action (whether embargo, insurgency, or overt war) against Israel. Sharon can do whatever he wants because his big brother is right there to threaten his enemies.
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Isere Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:53 PM
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18. Don't we have enough trouble already?
So what did we do to deserve this?!!!!!

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progressivejazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:55 PM
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19. Does he live in D.C.?
If he does, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a registered Democrat. Novak claims to be. D.C. is overwhelmingly Democratic, and these guys see claiming to be Democrats as the best way to affect the politics of D.C. Talk about Democrats in name only!
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:55 PM
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20. right and so is Novak
and ORielly is an "independent"... all part of their schtick to try to have "credibility" for their extremist ideas.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 01:06 PM
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22. maybe the DLC can give Perle a job
He's just as much of a "Democrat" as From, Reed, Marshall, Bayh, Lieberman, etc.
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bacchant Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 01:10 PM
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23. RICHARD PERLE MAKES ME HURL
Ta da!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 01:17 PM
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24. I suspect all these neocons are drinking heavily these days.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 01:18 PM
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25. I suspect all these neocons are drinking heavily these days.
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 01:23 PM
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26. If he is a liberal democrat...
George Bush is a Jesus-lovin'Christian.
Uh huh, uh huh, uh huh uh huh uh huh.
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thethinker Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 01:25 PM
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27. I would believe this
Perle and gang are both Democrat and Republican. They are both and neither. Their loyalties lie elsewhere.

If you will recall they tried hard to influence Clinton.

They are probably already trying hard to build inroads into the Kerry camp. With some of the public statements Kerry has made I would guess they are already there. Kerry needs to be very careful where he gets his advice from.

These people have an agenda and they will not disappear with Bush.



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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 01:40 PM
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29. I really disagree with that, it's quite clear that there was a sort of
Edited on Sun May-09-04 01:45 PM by Bombtrack
x crossing in the WOT/Iraq war with former republican-types(wes Clark, Richard Clarke, Rand Beers) in one intellectual camp crossing over to the WOT realist side and former left-wing types crossing over to the WOT globalist/Neocon side such as Woolsey, Perle, Chris Hitchens, Joe Lieberman etc.

Kerry isn't a neconservative. He isn't a globalist in any bad way. He is internationalist and he is realist.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 01:34 PM
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28. If you've read enough about him and his intellectual allies, it's no shock
that he's a dem. Jim Woolsey is a democrat too.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 01:41 PM
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30. Amazing
How many right wing turds claim to be "classic liberals"...by which they mean that they're not going to say anything bigoted where anybody might hear them...
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 02:28 PM
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31. Woolsey, Leiberman, Miller, are fraud Demcrats
And this is their purpose:

Our Right Wing Propaganda shows on cable and network need to have a person WHO CLAIMS TO BE DEMOCRAT so that they can appear to balance the show against the ALWAYS PRESENT RIGHT WING GUEST EXPERT-PROPAGANDIST.

They are shills for balance. Biden is sometimes there with them.

Maybe this just means that we are going to see and hear a lot more from Richard Perle or maybe he is going to get his own show so they can say that one of their hosts is Democrat.

So, now there are three possibilities:

We can add - major propagandist.

Apalling evidence of inhumanity.


LIIIAAAAR!
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 02:46 PM
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32. Actually he did work for Senator Scoop.
Keep in mind that Scoop Jackson was probably the most hawkish Democrat during that time. In fact he was probably more Republican Lite than Joe Lieberman is now.

There is an article about Perle and his connection to the late Senator here. Read on.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001834779_jackson12m.html


As for for the part of "classical liberalism". I really dispute that claim.


John
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