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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:24 PM
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Do you think W feels betrayed by Rummy?
If the reports are to believed, and thats a big if, W may have realized he needs to be more hands on.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:28 PM
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1. Rummy is a member
of the cabinet. The cabinet reports to Bush. Bush knew everything that was going on, and since it continued to happen, Bush approved.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:30 PM
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2. Think "General Hospital" or "The Young and the Restless".
You'll have the right idea.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:39 PM
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11. Bush Cares?
Is he having prayer rugs and Qurans produced by Halliburton now to improve our image?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:34 PM
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3. Why would he feel betrayed?
He knew all about this shit. He's just lying and the anger is because they got caught.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:36 PM
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6. Remember how dumb W is - they keep things from him.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:35 PM
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4. NO, just pi**ed off because this stuff got leaked to the press!
I also doubt W thinks he needs to be more hands on! That's not his style. He likes to strut around playing King and make sure if something goes wrong, it's not HIS fault!
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:37 PM
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9. When they start lying to you - you sober up fast.
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scared Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:36 PM
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5. Does Bush feel betrayed by Rummy?
No.
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Daisey Mae Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:35 AM
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21. NO
Bush is bloodthirsty........total jerk !!!
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Harrumph Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:37 PM
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7. W doesn't 'feel' anything.
You have to have a heart in order to feel normal human emotions. W is missing that important element.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:37 PM
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8. No, he feels betrayed by the guy that gave the pics to CBS.
Payback sucks.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:38 PM
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10. Quite frankly...
whether or not he feels betrayed is not of the slightest interest to me.

I just want that whole crew out of there.
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:39 PM
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12. No way.
Bush planned the whole thing.
Enemy combattants who never get hearings.
Nothing said about John Walker Lindh.
No ICC.
Guantanamo.
Faked up charges against military chaplain at Guantanamo.
Nothing said about Afghanistan massacres.
Geneva Convention does not apply.
Reduce rights even of U. S. citizens to lawyers, charges against them, trials.
Special military tribunals,he's in charge.

Partial list.

MIHOP for torture!!
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MajorFlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:40 PM
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13. Do you really want shrub to be a hands on leader? What skills has he
shown which will improve the situation created by his trusted advisers. He keeps his hands off policy because he knows in his heart that he is clueless. He sometimes looks as if he really wants to lose and go home. I don't know how anyone could find his "leadership" inspiring.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:42 PM
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14. Hell No.
He's thanking him! At best Rumsfeld took sole responsibility and said he was sorry. He's toed the line perfectly and not once did he even hint at disloyalty to his master.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:47 PM
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15. He's the kind of person who feels cheated and mistreated by everyone
Edited on Sun May-09-04 11:49 PM by PurityOfEssence
That would be a Republican.

He definitely has the personality traits of someone who feels privileged and deserving of much more than he has. He's sick, and he really believes this.

He feels betrayed by Rummy fucking up, not by the actions. To a sociopath, the only crime is getting caught. If he didn't know the extent of abuse and torture, he knew the broad strokes.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:01 AM
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18. They say when Reagan was told the truth about Iran-Contra.
He got white as a sheet.

In every presidency is the moment when they realize that ultimately its their own ass on the line.

Then they don't trust anybody.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:49 PM
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16. Shrub Only Cares If WHATEVER Happens He Gets CAUGHT at n/t
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TheWizardOfMudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:55 PM
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17. Bush doesn't have a fucking clue
He obviously lives in total confusion and has no idea whether to be pissed at Rumsfeld or not. He is a puppet. He is doing what Cheney tells him to do. As if Bush could analyze a situation and take control? LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:14 AM
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19. see, everyone keeps coming from the angle bush didnt know
i think bush and cheney and rummy all decided that they were going to drop geneva, and torture and let contractors and other do what may to get info. this is so bush, what ever is ok for the end good

i dont think bush was betrayed or uniformed
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:40 AM
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22. Yup. See my post 12.
BUSH MIHOP for torturers. NOT Cheney, NOT Rumsfeld, NOT Condi, NOT Wolfowitz, BUSH MIHOP FOR TORTURERS.
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Daisey Mae Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:27 AM
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20. The buck stops with W.... he had to OK the torture or it would
have stopped.....Rummy is a sicko and should be removed...This behavior is right out of Hitler's hand book "Mein Kampt". We are living in the early stages of the Fourth Reich....( Hitler ruled over the Third Reich ) We are entering the Twilight Zone of our Demacracy....Our freedoms are eroding every day.....It began the minute Our Idiot King moved into the White House.....We have been LIED to, Promised all sorts of things to railroad us into WAR...Those LIES have killed nearly 800 troops, We have no idea how many more Americans have been killed... over 3000 US troops are seriously injured in hospitals all over this county and media outlets are threatened if they want to expose these story's of the severely injured Americans.... and the Iraqi dead and injured are about 10 times the rate of our suffering and Death.....We were fed a bunch of LIES about HOW GREAT THE WAR IN IRAQ WAS GOING ........LIES ALL !...

I yearn for the days of PEACE and PROSPERITY when presidents only lied about about PRIVATE matters which didn't KILL PEOPLE or make any difference in our lives...... Our treasury is empty Because the little Puke ASSHOLE had to steal oil from Iraq and give our hard earned Tax money to to his CRONY'S and Contributers....Like Nixon before him, He and All the main actors in the White House are CROOKS...........AND LIARS !!!!!






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