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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:02 AM
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List 'Em- DIFFERENCES Between Bush and Kerry
If one of the tactics of the campaign is to blur the differences, let's get a LIST of where Kerry stands out.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:03 AM
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1. Kerry is PRO-CHOICE; Bush equates choice with terrorism
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:13 AM
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5. Don't forget the difference in position over the environment
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:18 AM
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8. Kerry considered one of America's premier environmental leaders
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:06 AM
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2. Kerry Against *Sneak & Peak* & Other Civil Liberties Abuses-Patriot Act
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:07 AM
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3. Kerry actually fought in a war
realized it was wrong, expressed his opinions, and stands by it. He also isn't afraid to ask the UN for help.
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phiddle Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:11 AM
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4. A few personal differences
Kerry has long history of success, Bush has a long history of failure.
Kerry is informed and knowlegeable, Bush is illiterate and out of the loop.
Kerry works hard, Bush is on vacation 40% of the time.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:14 AM
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6. Kerry For Jobs In America-Bush Pushes Outsourcing
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:15 AM
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7. Kerry has served the public his entire life.
In war, as a prosecutor, and in the Senate.

Bush failed throughout life, till he won a position in a "weak-governor state." Jogged and played video games at that job until he stole the election.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:21 AM
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9. Bush prays for the return of the Kingdom of God on Earth...
Kerry prays for the return of fiscal common sense and an even handed foreign policy HEAVY on the diplomatic and consensus-building fronts.

That's a good difference.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:22 AM
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10. Kerry=alternative fuels Bush=drilling and killing
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:23 AM
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11. Kerry is for stem cell research that could save lives
Bush is against it.
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:23 AM
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12. Until Kerry takes a stronger stand against the draft
and protracted military involvement, I'm having a real hard time getting on board with him. In fact, with four kids of draft age, I could become a single-issue voter on that. Someone show me that Kerry has a clue about getting the hell out of Iraq and learning to play nice with our neighbors.

Bev Harris
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:56 AM
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20. Bev - tell me about GWB's position against the draft
and protracted military involvement.

At any rate, Kerry does sincerely want to internationalize Iraq and get out asap. He has already said on MTP that iraq may end up as a theocracy rather than GWB's "Jeffersonian Democracy." This to me signals a willingness to let Iraq do what Iraq wants to do, and a willingness to get out when we have cleaned up the mess we made of their infrastructure.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:18 AM
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31. The problem is...
if the international community comes to the rescue under Kerry...that legitimizes the war. I don't think any country that is not there now...is going to be willing to jump on the band wagon under Kerry. Just my .02 worth.

I would like to hear Kerry state..."No Draft under my administration"...once I hear him utter those words I will be far more comfortable voting for him. Until that time...I consider him a threat to my kids as well.

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:40 AM
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35. just a couple practical considerations. . .
if Kerry can bring on allies to help reconstruct Iraq infrastructure it doesn't legitimize the war, it legitimizes the world's desire to clean up the mess GWB made and not leave the Iraqi people hanging.

"No Draft under my administration" is the same kind of promise as "Read My Lips, No New Taxes." How can any politician legitimately make such a promise, given that catastrophic future events can't be predicted? What happens if Saudi Arabia invades the US? No draft?

On the other hand, I have listened very carefully to what Kerry has said related to this issue, and I am convinced that he does not think a draft is needed given our current situation.

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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:23 AM
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32. Draft-What Kerry said in April 2004
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/clips/news_2003_1203a.html

Kerry also said he doesn’t believe there is a need to reinstate the draft, a source of conflict during the Vietnam War.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:50 AM
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36. I agree, my son just turned 17
and would be called up if there were a draft. Kerry has no balls on the Iraq issue.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:17 AM
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42. Where have you been the last 30 years?
Edited on Mon May-10-04 11:19 AM by blm
Everything you just wrote makes me wonder if you know ANYHTING about the FACTS of Kerry's policy positions or ANYTHING about the man's over 30 years in public life.

Color me disappointed. I thought you would be a more thorough researcher than that. Now that you have the power to influence people, you owe it to the public to use it more carefully.
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:59 PM
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48. Show me his position statements -- formal ones, not something
said off the cuff at a town meeting -- that say he wants to get us out of Iraq and that he is not in favor of the draft. I believe he did say that the draft would be necessary in order to adequately staff the armed forces for the engagements we are involved in.

I'm not the only one who is under this impression. Prove me right or wrong. If someone can show me that Kerry will protect our kids from being sent to get killed or maimed in some dumb war, I'll be much more vocal in support of Kerry.

Bev
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 03:03 PM
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49. Funny I recall him saying just the opposite -
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=508754

Not a formal position paper, I know. . .

At any rate, let's settle it - you have the press credentials to call the Kerry Campaign and nail it down. Let us know what they tell you.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:23 AM
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13. Kerry can read.
Bush is a drunk.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:09 AM
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29. and understand a PDB
EOM
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:12 AM
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30. Not to be underestimated!
A lot of problems go to the fact that the current administration apparently doesn't read ANYthing.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:23 AM
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14. Kerry will roll back Bush crazy tax cut to top 2%
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:02 AM
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26. and Bush wants to make the tax cuts "permanent"
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:25 AM
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15. Kerry can use diplomacy to avoid wars, Bush unable and unwilling to do so.
thinking of the future with N. Korea and other countries.

Four more years of Bush is GUARANTEED to give us more wars.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:26 AM
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33. Forget that "unable and unwilling" line...
Bush starts wars for no good reason.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:26 AM
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16. Bush already has his next war planned (Iran or Syria) and Kerry does not
If Bush wins, we WILL have another war. Iran or Syria at the very least.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:27 AM
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17. Kerry will better fund education, Bush will cut more for his tax cuts
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:29 AM
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18. Kerry has plans to reduce costs of healthcare and college. Bush does not.
Bush is the status quo in these areas. Kerry has ideas on how to help us lower the costs of health insurance and college tuition. He has *gasp* PLANS! Bush has NONE. The only plans Bush has are for more tax cuts and more wars.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:33 AM
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19. Kerry is against the proposed FMA: Bush is for. Kerry is for civil unions.
Bush is against.

Kerry is supportive of gay issues: ENDA, the repeal of "DADT", hate crimes legislation. Bush is against all of that.

Granted, Kerry says he's against gay marriage. But, at least, Kerry will listen to arguments for gay marriage. Bush has declared war on gays and lesbians in this country.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:57 AM
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21. Bush will appoint Right-Wing Crazos to the Supreme Court, Kerry won't
EOM
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:58 AM
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22. Kerry will provide Tax Relief to Middle Class, Bush won't
EOM
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:59 AM
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23. Kerry is articulate
whereas the Chimp has trouble forming sentences and reading teleprompters.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:00 AM
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25. Kerry's cabinet would be made up of Democrats
not recycled, theocratic neo-cons from past adminstrations.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:06 AM
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28. Kerry's admin would not draw from recycled Iran-Contra criminals
EOM
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:06 AM
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37. No he just draws from PNAC signatories...
you know Rand Beers.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:14 AM
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38. What PNAC document did Rand Beers sign?
I can't find that.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:17 AM
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39. There is a world of difference between Beers and Negroponte
Edited on Mon May-10-04 10:18 AM by Redleg
and other Bush I criminals. For one, Beers left the Bush II administration because of Bush's handling of the "War on Terror." Second, I just checked the PNAC website and looked at their letters & statements. I didn't see Beer's signature on any of them. Perhaps you can enlighten me.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:27 AM
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41. Put down your broad brush a minute and read this
Edited on Mon May-10-04 10:28 AM by emulatorloo
Rand Beers is an advisor, not the ultimate authority, and frankly what he say about Bush admin is pretty harsh and dead on.

This WAPO article is worth reading, the whole thing.

Former Aide Takes Aim at War on Terror

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A62941-2003Jun15?language=printer

<snip>

"The administration wasn't matching its deeds to its words in the war on terrorism. They're making us less secure, not more secure," said Beers, who until now has remained largely silent about leaving his National Security Council job as special assistant to the president for combating terrorism. "As an insider, I saw the things that weren't being done. And the longer I sat and watched, the more concerned I became, until I got up and walked out."

<snip>

The focus on Iraq has robbed domestic security of manpower, brainpower and money, he said. The Iraq war created fissures in the United States' counterterrorism alliances, he said, and could breed a new generation of al Qaeda recruits. Many of his government colleagues, he said, thought Iraq was an "ill-conceived and poorly executed strategy."

<snip>
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:21 AM
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43. I hear there's no difference between you and the GOP Sec of State in Wash.
The media told me so and some anarchists I listen to agreed.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:00 AM
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24. Kerry believes in sep of Church and State; Bush doesn't n/t
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:04 AM
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27. Bush believes "deficits don't matter" Kerry believes they are bad n/t
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workforpower Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:27 AM
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34. JFK is an outstanding man.
Bush is a complete failure. Can't you see the difference? This election is not about policy or phoney "charisma". Its about winning. All elections are about winning. The horse is power the cart is change. Don't mix them up!
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:19 AM
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40. Kerry has a strong woman by his side...
Edited on Mon May-10-04 10:19 AM by BiggJawn
Bush has a tranked-out Stepford doormat behind him.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:23 AM
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44. Isn't the point really the way they go about getting things done?
Edited on Mon May-10-04 11:24 AM by Kadie
People can have the same or similar goals, but the way they go about getting things done is what really counts.

You got two people who have a goal of having a million dollars.

One person works hard, saves money, makes his goal.

The next guy robs, cheats and steals.

If I had more time now I would go more into detail about how Kerry and bushie may "say" what sounds the same, but the big difference is in how they will get there.
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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:32 AM
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45. Kerry has a fully formed brain. Bush only has a brainstem.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:49 PM
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46. Kerry for Veterans-Bush has cut back on Veterans benefits
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/veterans/

Mandatory funding for veterans health care, and both military retired pay AND disability compensation (if applicable)
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:52 PM
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47. Kerry, unlike Bush, isn't completely out of his fucking mind
Bush think's he had a mandate from God to take out Saddam, which is why this "christian" man was able to bullshit his way into Iraq. Kerry also won't appoint a bunch of ideological idiots who have their heads firmly planted up their own asses.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 03:27 PM
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50. LOL. Very true.
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