what is military law regarding ms. england's pregnancy?

she's the infamous grinning lady in the photos, and she's in the brig, and 5 months pregnant. how does the army proceed in this regard?

:puke:

Getting pregnant while on duty isn't allowed.

How they handle it, I don't know.

...was serving in the same unit wasn't he? They can't get her on adultery. Celibacy isn't a part of the rules usually. *scratching head* I didn't have that many women in the nits I served in so I'm a little foggy on how it gets handled, but I do believe that her getting pregnant while serving in a war zone is a violation of some variety. If it is then it will most likely get added to her CM proceedings. It could also get covered by an administrative punishment which they might do so as to not cloud the issues that will require CM proceedings.

Theater of Operations, then she has violated it. I'm not sure if such a general order was issued, but I think one probably was. That's an Article 15 offense since the relationship was not adulterous and was between two enlisted members.

Now if we can just get someone to confirm if there was, or was not, such an order issued.

for "sperm donor".
I think it's a polite way of saying he knocked her up.

I can't remember how to spell it, but he is also one of the accused prisoner torturers. My my. For once in my life I am rendered speechless.

In the past, if you became pregnact during basic training, you were automatically discharged.

Pregnancy, in and of itself, is no longer grounds for automatic discharge. The woman can, however, request to be discharged due to pregnancy. Those requests are granted 100% of the time.

for an early discharge?

i've heard that my t.v. machine several times

damien...........cue the choir

Sheesh. What a couple of psychos. She didn't even WORK in that part of the prison -- just went there for kicks.

My friend told me that he is from a small town and as a paperboy he found out that small towns, everyone is nuts, like a David Lynch movie.

First of all she's not in the stockade, brig is a navy term, stockade
is where army personnel are confined.

She is restricted to Ft Bragg and the surrounding area, and she's currently working in an admin slot.

As far as being pregnant goes, unless she violated an order regarding fraternization while in Iraq, or committed adultery, there's really not much legally the Army can do.

I do have a question regarding Ms. England, it has to do with the team of lawyers I saw on CNN this morning.

How does the daughter of a railroad worker afford three civilian lawyers? The military won't pay for civilian lawyers, as a PFC or SP4
she doesn't make enough to pay the hourly rate.

So now it's time for the tinfoil hat to go on. Who's paying for these
lawyers?

Just asking.

Those lawyers are doing this for free...the publicity alone is worth it to them.

And I'm reasonably sure CENTCOM has a General Order prohibiting service members from having sex while in Iraq. Yes, they can enforce that, and yes, they can punish her for it.

Well it's good that the lawyers are doing this for free, but if they lose the case the publicity won't be that great.

I talked to my wife last night and asked her if CENTCOM has such a general order, I should be talking to her again on Wednesday evening.

If there is such a General Order in existence they haven't charged her with violating it yet, and seeing as to how it's not related to the case in question, it will either be swept under the carpet or they'll just give her an Article 15.

As for these trials, all the defense has to do is to convince the judge that there is already command bias. This can be based on Shrub
shooting his mouth off about punishing those responsible.

with some kind of administrative sanction added, but I really don't know.
That child will need therapy.

sorta of Rosemary's Baby theme.

Sign I just saw at local church (this is true!): Be thankful your mother did not abort you - celebrate Happy Mother's Day.

for soldiers


So it is actionable

in defiance of the natural tendencies of young men and women to get together? Funny, I've read lots of posts on DU ridiculing the "abstinence only" approach to sex ed as unrealistic, but nobody seems to connect the dots the same way when it's an armed forces order.

And does the "lawful order" also apply to a married couple, both soldiers, who may be stationed in Iraq? If so, what does this say about the much vaunted "sanctity of marriage."

and they can't enforce it..and when they do, it's usually selectively..ie, they just want to charge a soldier cause they can

Stationed in Saudi Arabia I believe (I wasn't with the unit yet when this happened). She was busted down one grade in rank. As far as I know that's all that happened to her. She never said who the father was but everybody guessed it was an officer. Of course nothing happened to him.

... I believe that's their rule.