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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:35 PM
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DU this CNN poll on the release of the photos
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:37 PM
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1. half and half
Typical. Half want to know the truth and half want the truth covered up so that no one is brought to justice other than the few disposable underlings doing the dirty work.
Typical.
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Failure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:37 PM
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2. Once again split down the middle...looks like the work of the
Great Uniter....

not the Great Divider...


I'm going now.


failure.
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Supormom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:40 PM
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3. 51% yes
Should all pictures and videos of Iraqi prisoner abuse be released to the public?

Yes 51% 11244 votes

No 49% 10828 votes
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:41 PM
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4. 49% Can't Handle The Truth
what is up with republican's, why can't they look at those they defend? Support the troops means looking the other way when things get ugly.
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ant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:44 PM
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5. I wish they'd blur faces
That goes for everyone posting these pictures. If I had been abused like that I would not appreciate having pictures of it fly around the world. When the shame element is such a big part of the torture, it seems that posting the pictures over and over again just adds more of the same. At the very least I think it should just be done out of respect for the victims.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:47 PM
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10. Yes and no
look at the horror of photos of the Holocaust... they were not blurrred

Try to look into those eyes, the horror is what we have to face
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ant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:01 PM
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17. victim's choice
The holocaust didn't have the same sort of shaming element, I don't think. It's the difference between why we'll release the names of mugging/murder victims but not rape victims.

I can see the argument in favor of doing it - that picture with the guy and the dog in particular, the horror on his face is the impact - but really I think it's a decision to be made by the victim himself. I do think rape victims should step forward and identify themselves in order to end the stigma and shame, but I would not take it upon myself to make that decision for them.

Again, it's just a matter of respect. You may be proving a point, but what are you really proving if you make that point against the wishes of the victim or in a way that merely perpetuates the abuse (i.e., he's no longer a human being whose feelings should be considered but the ends to a mean)?
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theivoryqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:48 PM
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11. good point n/t
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:44 PM
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6. No open transparent gov't for you - FOUR YEARS - NEXT!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:46 PM
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7. This is divided
but it could also reflect cognitive disonance, and it is getting
painful
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:46 PM
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8. As of now.....
Should all pictures and videos of Iraqi prisoner abuse be released to the public?

Yes 51% 14302 votes

No 49% 13803 votes
Total: 28105 votes

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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:47 PM
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9. The photos have to be released
The world knows they are there and we must still act like a free society even if we no longer are . . .


Does anyone know that you’re my hero . . . .
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:48 PM
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12. Tied 51%-49%. GO VOTE!
This is the first poll I've seen that was this close! Please go vote!!!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:51 PM
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13. This is crazy. Why the resistance to the truth, anyway?
Just voted:

Yes 51% 15785 votes

No 49% 15268 votes
Total: 31053 votes

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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:54 PM
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14. They'll get out eventually
It may be better to have them trickle out a little at a time. We all know how widespread the abuse and torture was. Anyone eho believed otherwise is living in denial or looney or both . . .

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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:00 PM
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16. You are right, and even self-interested Rethugs...
want them to all come out NOW, e.g. Lindsey Graham. They want this because they know the damage control will be easier. Better to have one big shock that will be down the memory hole by November, rather than to have mini-shock after mini-shock that keeps this issue in the public's face from here on out. Would not be good for the Chimp King... or any of the Rethugs for that matter.

Of course, they'd rather they NEVER, EVER came out, but they know better... the pictures WILL come out.
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:26 PM
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22. Some are already out
see post #18 below.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:55 PM
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15. Eisenhower strongly encouraged photographers to go to Nazi camps
after they were liberated, to record the unbelieveable atrocities.

CNN's ridiculous question, and those responding not to release the images, puts them on the far right of the spectrum, the end which would prefer to tidy up quickly and forget the whole thing.
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:09 PM
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18. I've seen some of the unreleased photo's
I have an Iraqi friend at work, who was just sent a PowerPoint presentation which includes a number of unreleased photo's.

This presentation came to him from overseas. Believe me, the folks in the Middle East are going to see these latest photo's long before the American people will. And they are going to go wild. Everything you have seen before is nothing compared to these sick photo's, which include graphic shots of prisoners being urinated on and beaten, and Iraqi women being raped.

After these get out, nothing more than a thorough governmental and military house-cleaning will be considered enough of a 'first step'. These maggots who have done this have probably soiled the U.S.'s reputation (even further than it already was) for at least a full generation.

I'm just sick. :puke:

:grr:
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:20 PM
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19. done
Should all pictures and videos of Iraqi prisoner abuse be released to the public?

Yes 51%
24057 votes

No 49%
23474 votes

Total: 47531 votes

11:19a pdt
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:21 PM
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20. done
51 yes....
the GOPers are in total denial!!!!!!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:24 PM
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21. 51% yes
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:26 PM
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23. Check the one on CNN international too (blame soldiers or leaders)
Edited on Mon May-10-04 01:27 PM by robbedvoter
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