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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:26 PM
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Poll question: The Iraq Torture Scandal... Worse than Watergate?
Edited on Mon May-10-04 02:37 PM by JCMach1
How would you rank the current scandal/attrocity?


My personal opinion: Worse than watergate

Note this is on a scale of RELATIVE political magnitude...
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:29 PM
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1. Bush met and exceeded Watergate before he even moved in
When he stole the White House. Everything after that has just been exponential multiplication -- along the lines of the richter scale . . .

http://www.wgoeshome.com
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sweetladybug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:56 PM
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14. boobooday, I agree with you
It's hard to believe that the whole country sit back and watch Bush and his crime family steal a Presidential Election and we did NOTHING. Every time I hear a Democrat refer to him a President it turns my stomach. Look at all that he has gotten by with and we have done NOTHING. I feel like I am living in a different universe since 2000. Up is down, In is out, Good is bad. TOTALLY UNBELIEVABLE
ELECT KERRY 3004!!!!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:30 PM
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2. It will be if we can trace the mercenaries involved back to
Edited on Mon May-10-04 02:33 PM by patrice
Haliburton, Bechtel, Boot&Root subsidiaries.

This is SEX and lies folks. You know how crazy some people are about S-E-X. I just hope someone can show people making $$$$$$ off of the situation relative to the paltry $$ enlisted get + cuts in benefits!
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:31 PM
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3. Nobody was tortured during Watergate
Abu Gharaib, on the other hand...
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:33 PM
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4. /But Watergate was to cover up Iran Contra.
(Blackmail)

THOUSANDS DIED THEN IN HONDURAS, GUATEMALA, ETC. JUST AS THOUSANDS ARE DYING NOW IN IRAQ/
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:47 PM
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12. no, no, no
Edited on Mon May-10-04 02:48 PM by ima_sinnic
Watergate was circa 1973, during Nixon's era. All it was was some dumbass Republicans wiretapping Democratic room(s?) at the Watergate Hotel, eavesdropping. For that, Nixon resigned!!! That was back in the days when the Republicans had a shred of integrity and honor.

Iran-Contra was MUCH worse. That occurred under Reagan's watch (with Bush Sr as VP) in the early to mid-80s. The reptiles sold arms to Iran (our "enemy") and used the money to fund death squads in Central America; specifically the Nicaraguan Contras, who were opposed to Daniel Ortega's (*gasp*) "socialist" and very progressive revolutionary government, after they seized power from--aarrrgggh, can't think of the dictator's name, one of the U.S.'s pals. Six of those felons are now in Bush Jr's administration--they were all of course pardoned by their buddy Bush Sr. (I may have some details twisted; other DUers please tidy this up if necessary--thanks!)
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jdsmith Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 03:02 PM
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17. Watergate was 1972
At least the breakin was. But the coverup lasted until '74 and the retaliation against the good guys lasts till this day.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:33 PM
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5. Watergate was domestic scandal.
Edited on Mon May-10-04 02:37 PM by Sentinel Chicken
No one outside of the USA was effected by it. Torture-gate is a disaster for our international image and relations. The neo-cons have pissed on the flag again.
(Torture-gate is not copyrighted in any way. Feel free to use it as often as possible.)
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:36 PM
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7. Yep, I was just trying to relate things on a scale of political magnitude
apparently, DU thinks it ranks pretty high.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:40 PM
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9. PLEASE don't call it Torture-gate
"-gate" somehow trivializes it. Even "scandal" doesn't do it justice.
I like the word "atrocity" that is in the original post. The torture atrocity of the Bush regime--that has a nice strongly condemning ring to it.
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jdsmith Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:44 PM
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10. Absolutely agreed
The "gate" suffix has been used repeatedly to trivialize a number of scandals and to jump start others ("Monica-gate")--and overuse has also had a way of trivializing Watergate itself, making it seem little more than one in a bunch of tv events.
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CityZen-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:34 PM
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6. A Fraternity Prank
Watergate was more like a Fraternity Prank! The Bu$hitler machinations tell us so.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:37 PM
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8. Watergate was equal to only ONE of BushCo's many outrages
--and, by comparison, "minor." They've gotten away with far far worse so far. Up to this time I've despised Nixon, but now I greatly respect him for having had the graciousness to resign, which basically took full responsibility for the crime. Bush, on the other hand, is a goddam fool who thinks he can "get away with it."
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:44 PM
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11. I'd have to take off my shoes
because I've run out of fingers to count the scandals of BushCo that have far exceeded Watergate in terms of damage done, laws broken, and extent of cover-up.

I didn't think anything could exceed the illegal invasion of Iraq on the old atrocity meter but the scandal du jour, Abu Ghraib, is causing a total meltdown.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:53 PM
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13. who the hell thinks coverup of torture is of the same magnitude
as Bill and Monica?

must be one of our visiting *cough cough* "friends"
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:59 PM
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15. As far as things that matter, yes, but...
as far as political impact inside the US? No.
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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 03:00 PM
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16. Watergate, in the scheme of things, was just a break in.
There have been many more worse.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 03:04 PM
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18. In this context, "no problem at all"....
.... 'cause The Faithful will not be swayed. They're too locked-in to their faith-based politics.
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