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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:44 PM
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I want every picture published and out in the open
I want Americans to see what we have done in the name of Christianity and liberating Iraqi's. I want Americans to confront the animal behavior they authorized via push polls and via their ignorance that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11.

I want Americans to confront that (while 9/11 was wrong) a foreign policy that is cloaked as benign while in truth and in reality is MUCH different than what they are spoon fed from the lap dog fellaitiating press is the REAL source of terrorism directed at Americans.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:46 PM
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1. Dude, but look at what they did to us on 9/11...
I'm with you 100% NSMA - but I keep hearing the title line repeated! :grr: That's why I want the Media Whores to pay!!!!!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:47 PM
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2. You bet your ass
We paid for it, let's see what we got for our money.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:50 PM
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3. Hahaha!
Now I know why I have missed you :D
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:51 PM
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4. TOTALLY agree
every single one of them needs to be made public.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:52 PM
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5. Absolutely my friend!
Just like Mi Lai - we need to see it!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:54 PM
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8. Kerry message: "NO MO SECRETS"
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:59 PM
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11. Most definitely..
we can NOT let them try to hide those videos and pix..they Must be shown to the public. Other countries are watching to see how the citizens handle this situation or are the citizens going to continue be silenced..They've been doing this for a long time, and now it's time to pay the piper, right to the TOP.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:52 PM
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6. I totally agree. This cannot be allowed to be swept under the rug
as "no big deal" or "a few bad apples". I highly suspect when/if these pictures do come out, we are going to see the true ugly nature of people in this country. There will be more shouts of "they deserved it" and "they are our enemy" and whatever other bullshit response comes to their tiny minds.

I am not only preparing myself for the horrific nature of the pictures, I am also preparing myself for the ugly side of denial and excuses that are sure to follow. I don't know what makes me more upset, the fact that our country engaged in this kind of behavior or the horrific responses that some have come from some peoples mouths. Have we truly lost our sense of common decency and doing what's right?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:55 PM
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9. All good reasons but yet another is this
These prisons are being run by private interests who lobbied for this war. They need to be dissolved and they need to be prosecuted as well...the only way to stop the military industrial complex is to literally rip their property from them and bankrupt them...the extent of their involvement needs to get out in the open before much more gets privatized.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:07 PM
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15. From what I am gathering, this privatization also helped them skirt
those pesky little laws that are constantly getting in the way of this administration. These private contractors don't appear to be under military law or Iraqi law. Hmmmm....two for the price of one? They certainly covered all their bases didn't they.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:59 PM
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12. Lovedems - we here prove decency isn't gone yet!
Stay strong - WE WILL OVERCOME! That is not an idealistic jingo!

:hi:
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:03 PM
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13. I know, it just makes my liberal heart break to see these people
Edited on Mon May-10-04 07:04 PM by lovedems
tortured and then it breaks more when I hear the screams of the dittoheads and freepers. I just keep thinking these right wing nutcases are not only succeeding in dumbing down the american people, they are taking our collective heart away too. They are taking away what is suppose to good about our country.

I normally try to be so optimistic and look on the bright side but with this abuse scandal and this war, there isn't a bright side. It just keeps getting more and more ugly.

Edit:
Thanks for the upbeat message. I know we will overcome. :)
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:06 PM
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14. We need to confront the ugly
There are times when I just want to fucking throw in the towel and pack my bags. But I can't....I don't know why but I can't. There are too many reasons to fight! The uglier it gets the more fucking pissed of and militant we need to be about demanding what our hearts tell us is the right thing!!!!!!!!
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:11 PM
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17. I am with you. I can't give up either!
Thanks! I feel better already!:hi:
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:16 PM
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20. You are absolutely welcome. I have OFTEN relied on DUers to revive me
Not saying that's what you needed, just saying, we're here for you!

We ARE going to prevail!

:yourock:
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:53 PM
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7. YES
and each and every one will break my heart.

*looking for the nearest fence*
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:57 PM
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10. Sunshine is the cure
and it needs to be applied in liberal doses to MANY aspects of the Bush administration- starting with these photos and videos.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:08 PM
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16. I want all the pics released
I want the names and ranks of all the perps to be published.

I want the names of all the photographers.

I want the names of the people who downloaded the pictures onto their hard drives.

I want all the email and transfer records that show who these images were sent to and how they were sent.

I want to know exactly, to the minute, when Rummy and * knew that torture was going on in Iraq.

I want to know every name of every cabinet member who knew about the torture.

I want the world to like us again.

I want my country back.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:12 PM
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18. I agree with two provisos
One, the child rape tape can only be shown if no one can identify the child. Two, all other pictures, tapes, etc. are to be blurred to the extent possible to protect the victims from further humiliation if the victims want that.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:12 PM
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19. Use "The Passion" defense
You routinely heard the violence in "The Passion" defended because "that's how it really happened."

Well, if you catch yourself arguing with a fundy over the pictures, use "The Passion" defense. "Sure, they're graphic, and abhorrent, but that's what really happened."
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:28 PM
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21. Please no!
Not the tapes of Lynndie and her boy toy doing the nasty! Anything but that I BEG OF YOU!

I have a hard time sleeping already.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 07:31 PM
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22. Eggs Zackley
They're just moments from a just war, Real Americans shouldn't have any problem looking at them. It was thrilling to see the purple misshapen bodies of Uday and Qusay splattered everywhere, why the squishiness over a few commemorative snaps of evil doers getting their just desserts? If they weren't bloodthirsty terrorists, what the hell are they doing in our prisons? I'm disappointed with George, he's becoming a liberal bedwetter.
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