Ya know, if in 2000 you warned people what Bush...

would do in the next four years, they would have locked you up in a padded room and threw away the key. What the hell are we in for next?

The other side was saying that we were telling people the end of the world would happen if Shrub was prez. We're almost there.......aren't we.....just like we said in 2000.....but people thought it was
"cute" to vote for Nader.

I blame people like Bill Maher and Chris Mathews for every death.
It was Black and White in 2000. Racist vs Non-Racist, and America decided....or well...it was close, and evil won.

on the program.

The thought of Al Franken voting for Nader is kinda funny, though.

when he came on the second day of the show.

He even helped Nader's campaign.

Al Franken is a good Democrat and voted for Al Gore.

..increased tax breaks for the wealthy and overseas companies, continued assaults on the legal rights of homosexuals and those suspected of terrorism, the ruination of our international reputation. For starters.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1567556#1573252

last part of #57

I knew in campaign 2000 it would not be good if W became pResident, but I had no idea things would be so bad so quickly.

I bugged a lot of people when I was in IA in June 2000 about my worries about W. My son kept reassuring me 'Mom, that's just because you live in OK. The rest of the country is sensible; even if he wins, he can't do too much bad because most people in the US are not like the ones you hear all the time in OK and will put the brakes on him if he tries anything really far out.'

Well, my son never claimed to be real good at reading the future, but he did calm me down for a while.

and that's all I talked about. No one wanted to listen. I knew he would be a horrible President, especially when he couldn't even name the president of Pakistan.:eyes:

Sometimes people just have to experience it before they believe it...unfortunately...

...meanwhile...the rest of us are going nuts knowing that each policy he tries to implement sends us back another decade.

He thought the guy's name was "Poutine", which actually is a Canadian fast food consisting of "freedom" fries, cheese, and gravy.

http://www.dewit.ca/archs/poutine/index.html

My friends from other states just thought I was exaggerating.

I knew there would be an economic collapse, there always is when you get the GOP in charge with their sticky fingers, but I thought an Enron-like event would be the "big deal." I never imagined they'd screw up so bad as to have a 9-11.

the next Supreme Court. I really had no idea...

when Souter was mugged recently. No, I can't prove it, but that attack seems very suspicious to me. :grr:

It was being e-mailed around in fall 2000. It said to pass on to so many of your friends or bad luck would follow.
"For example, in Texas..."

then it went on about all the stuff Dubya did as governor.

but I had no idea it would be this bad.

I did warn everyone around me. I was branded as an alarmist and an extremist.

Still, without the backing of the Republican Congress, Bush couldn't have gotten away with more than a fraction he has.

We need to install a DEMOCRATIC Congress along with Kerry this year!!!

Else the Republicans will block everything Kerry attempts to push and twist things to make Kerry look bad.

I am ever so thankful that Bush hasn't had an opportunity to install one of Karl Rove/Ralph Reed buddies into the Supreme Court.

We desperately need to change the political landscape. The first thing I am going to do is cast a vote against Dick Nethercutt here.

and life as we knew it will end. NO jobs, expensive food, gas, and utilities. Loss of citizen rights. A draft, more wars. The future looks terrible.

Make the author of "Final Exit" (3rd edition) even wealthier? :shrug:

we can vote for Kerry and hope the election is legal and hope that Kerry really is going to be different if he gets elected. Voting for Kerry I have a little hope. If Bush wins we may have to resort to more demanding methods.

everyone I know ...

I screamed bloody-murder. I'm not in a padded room. However, if Bu$h gets re-selected, I will be.

Then:
The media won't let him get away with that, will they?

Then:
What hath Satan wrought?

I've been through (Nixon (very young, but old enough to watch the hearings and grasp a bit and Reagan.

This is some serious crap we're in, folks. I'm sorry if some of you are too naive to understand the gravity of the situation.

...within 18 months." Only took 9, of course, but at the time I thought he was just being his usual bit more of a hothead than me. I'll never doubt him again--leastways, not about a Bush.

...by adding that both the Republican AND Democratic congress helped create the monster called BUSH*. As much as every one of us hates to admit it...Bush* couldn't have amassed this much power without the direct or indirect help of Democrats.

The onion called it:

My fellow Americans," Bush said, "at long last, we have reached the end of the dark period in American history that will come to be known as the Clinton Era, eight long years characterized by unprecedented economic expansion, a sharp decrease in crime, and sustained peace overseas. The time has come to put all of that behind us."

Bush swore to do "everything in power" to undo the damage wrought by Clinton's two terms in office, including selling off the national parks to developers, going into massive debt to develop expensive and impractical weapons technologies, and passing sweeping budget cuts that drive the mentally ill out of hospitals and onto the street.

During the 40-minute speech, Bush also promised to bring an end to the severe war drought that plagued the nation under Clinton, assuring citizens that the U.S. will engage in at least one Gulf War-level armed conflict in the next four years.

"You better believe we're going to mix it up with somebody at some point during my administration," said Bush, who plans a 250 percent boost in military spending. "Unlike my predecessor, I am fully committed to putting soldiers in battle situations. Otherwise, what is the point of even having a military?"

...

http://eagle.la.asu.edu/hester/bush_nightmare.html

:wow:

We knew he wanted to invade Iraq; we knew he was in the hand of the neocons and Christian lunatics, and we knew he was dumb, dumb, dumb. These things were all in plane view. Bush didn't even try to hide them in the general election, even about being dumb. He's proud of it in fact! He was just selective in what he advertised. But average guy, let alone those in the media, could have found these things out for themselves.

Here they'd try to lynch you. Lucky I can still run when inspired. :D

I lived in Texas for 15 years, which encompassed the Ann Richards years. I left in 1995. I have friends there that are the "Log Cabin Republican" sort (very plentiful in Dallas), and VERY well connected. I remember said friends telling me how gee-dubya was being groomed for first the governorship and then the presidency. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I mean no one took him seriously. I saw first hand how the texas repug mafia worked their black magic. First they had to set gee-dubya up as rehabilitated and born again, you know to appeal to the christian, white power base. Then they found a way to make a three-time failure of a businessman into a millionaire, which, is a quite a sordid story in itself. Read Molly Ivins two fine books on how gee-dubya was transformed from failure to the "owner of the Texas Rangers." I still can't even type that without choking.

This entire administration has been a set-up from the word GO. I remember telling anyone who would listen about the right-wing agenda and how gee-dubya was the corporate, right-wing puppet boy. I told people how they planned on stacking the court system. I told people how they would completely fuck up the middle east, even more than it already was, and that, my friends, is one hell of a dubious achievement.

It didn't take reading the tea leaves to see all this crap coming down. All you needed to do was just open your damned eyes. And the really scary thing is that the neocon cabal is NOT FINISHED YET. They need four more years to fully remake this country into their hideous vision. They will do ANYTHING to make sure that gee-dubya stays in the white house. ANYTHING. Start a war. No problem. Get somebody to hijack a few planes. No worries. Kill anyone that gets to close. All in a day's work.

On Edit: yep, I was branded an alarmist and extremist. Go figure.

....the only thing I didn't forsee was 911.

All of my co-workers in November 2000 were Republicans, and they really tried to rub in Junior's selection by the SCOTUS. I told them they would regret ever voting for Junior...he would bring us nothing but a destroyed economy and war in the Middle East.

I was living and working in NYC in 2000, and couldn't explain it rationally, but just had the "bad vibes." I was totally alarmed and warned my colleauges that they should not vote for *. Most of them laughed at the "crazy Canuck."

Hmm, I always trust my intuition. It sure has proven to be right.

I was in England during the recount and Brits, finding out I lived in Texas, asked me what I thought of Bush. I told them he was both stupid and evil, a lethal combination, and that another Bush presidency would mean non-stop war.

thought I was crazy, most of them NO longer think so. To be truthful this regime has far exceeded my worst fears of them, they ARE the worst case scenario.

What disturbed me most were the lies he told during the campaign, how he deliberately misrpresented his position on many issues -- I knew that was ominous....

I know that many of the people I sought to reach out to at the time wondered why my "knickers were in a twist", because after all, aren't all politicians the same? Shouldn't we just give the guy a chance? Wasn't I over-reacting?

That was years ago. Since then, these same people have independently concluded Bush is the worst thing that ever happened to this country. I have received recognition for having seen it all coming.

What are we in for next? I don't see any positive change coming out of this administration, ever. We're just going to keep spiraling downwards morally and economically - and "things" can get very very bad indeed. I'd LOVE to be wrong about this, but personally, I do not see any indication otherwise.