The Real Shame of It All.

Those of us who have read a few books on Iraq, know that Iraq was the most advanced arab nation on earth. Extremely highly educated, scientific, and with oil wealth, certainly a rising power.

This is the true reason they were attacked. Their country utterly destroyed by years and years of sanctions and now bombed to smithereens. A crucial link in the war to maintain world wide white supremacy.

Gotta give it to the media. All you get from the media is that they are a stupid, backwards people. I can't stand the ignorance of americans.

1. The neocons wanted to take a ME country ("reverse domino principle")
2. Bushco needed a war (political capital, war profiteering, erode civil rights)
3. Saddam was weakened and his army would be EASY (and the war part was a cakewalk)
4. Iraq is SECULAR, so might arouse LESS hatred in the Arab/Muslim street
5. OIL

...which ties in very closely to Bush and his screwball religion. For a scary read, try http://www.rollingstone.com/features/nationalaffairs/featuregen.asp?pid=2771

It's a long article, but an important one when it comes to understanding just who the "god" whispering into Bush's ear really is.

6. Hasten the Rapture.

That's another piece of the puzzle.

Du Scheiße!!! You need to warn people when you're gonna blurt shit like that out!!! :spank:

I mean, look at the last two months that this White House has had and Kerry is just EVEN!!!!!!! :wtf: I think you are giving us Americans too much credit with the ignorance remark



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Peace? :hippie: :smoke: :freak:

And we went for the weakest of the "axis of evil", weakened by years of sanctions. Bush thought it would be a cakewalk and then we could control all of their OIL OIL OIL . . .

He would be a hero in his bizarro world.

There is also the aspect of Saddam Hussein. While the invasion was clearly a mistake, let's not forget that Saddam was a brutal bastard. That made Iraq a convienent target because it could be sold to the American people and to a lesser extent the rest of the world (it could have been, if President Bush hadn't chosen to adopt a "Do what we say or screw you" sales approach)

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Although, with this pathetic media, the Administration could convince us all to drink paint (thx to Bill Maher for the quote). They could have demonized anyone.

Diaperhead tried to kill mah poppy.
That sandnigger be tryin' ta kill us!

SUPER EASY to program troops w/ belief: Iraqis "subhuman."

It was the WMD's and the imminent threat, er, the links to 9-11 and al Qaeda, I mean the repressive cruelty of Saddam's rape and torture rooms.

Wasn't it?

that did it. That's why you keep hearing "we have to defend our way of life." The normal course of human evolution suggests that the arab world, through it's inheritance of oil, would rise to be a world power, and we would decline. Because of the oil, the dollars would be flowing out of the US into the Middle East.

Our fearless leaders have decided that we can't allow this. The demonization of Saddam shows it. As brutal as he is reported to have been, he was still the most likely arab leader to get the arabs on the same page. This is what we feared more than anything. We gotta keep them confused and fighting each other.

Unfortunately, Bush wound up achieving the very opposite of what was intended. While he took out Saddam, he managed to do something even Saddam couldn't do. Unite the whole arab world against us.

To make a long story short, the true weapons of mass destruction are in the balls of Iraqi males.

i'm trying to find some good info on pre-first-gulf war Iraq. anything good available on the net? or books? everytime i tell somebody that iraq had a comparable standard of living to us, before we destroyed them, all i get is a blank unbelieving stare. i need something relatively brief, yet informative to back me up.

and to the point. Never had an inkling how advanced Iraq was technologically and educationally until reading that book among others. It will break your heart to read how professors and other intellectuals are broken down into "toaster repairers" and other fix-it type jobs because of the sanctions that wouldn't let any parts to replace broken things get into Iraq. It also details how we, the US, vetoed things no other countries would vetosimply because in our minds, a piece of plumbing "could conceivably be used to make a weapon."

It's sick and shameful what we have done to Iraq. You guys can sing about how bad Saddam was all you want. But if you just consider the fact that we have absolutely no legal basis whatsoever for holding him captive, then you might get the point. He didn't violate the UN resolutions in the end. He had allowed the inspectors back in, he had produced the required report to the UN in which it was stated that Iraq had no wmds, and has done nothing against the US.

i'll look for it!

if i can slow down enough, my heads spinning from all thats going on.

posted twice....sorry, buggy software!

See post below....

Iraq, circa March 2001, painted a completely different picture than the Evil Empire the Bush Administrations tried to portray in their determined rush to war.

"Iraq was one of the more progressive Islamic countries in the region. It provided full
rights for women and public education for its citizens who enjoyed a decent standard
of living."

http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=451&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

"In our hotel, there's running water throughout the day, hot water in the morning.
Various streets in Baghdad are lined with little stores, surprisingly well-stocked with
household appliances, hardware goods, furniture, and clothes (much of which has a
second-hand look).

"We see no derelicts or homeless people on the streets, no prostitutes or ragged
bands of abandoned children, though there are occasional youngsters eager to
shine shoes or solicit spare change. But even they seem to be well-fed and decently
clothed. ......large swaths of the city used to be shrouded in complete darkness;
today, there are lights just about everywhere

"The Iraqi leadership could turn US policy completely around by uttering just two
magic words: "free market." All they have to do is invite the International Monetary
Fund and World Bank into Iraq, eliminate free education and free medical care,
abolish the minimal food ration that goes to every Iraqi, abolish the housing
transportation subsidies, and hand over the country's oil industry to the corporate
cartels. To lift the sanctions, Iraq must surrender to the tender mercies of the
free-market paradise....

"Until then, Iraq will continue to be designated a "rogue nation" by those policy
makers in Washington who themselves are the meanest profit-driven, power-mongering
rogues on earth."

http://www.towardfreedom.com/2001/mar01/iraq.htm


The issue of trade sanctions against Iraq put the Bush Administration in a bind - the sanctions had been designed to punish Saddam for not conceding to U.S. demands but it ended up handicapping U.S. corporations and undermining the PNAC's drive for U.S. economic supremacy.

That was the reason Bin Laden was gunning for Saddam, too.

Bush gave Bin Laden his wish.