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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:45 AM
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KRUGMAN: "a moral catastrophe was inevitable"
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/11/opinion/11KRUG.html

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Just trust us, John Ashcroft said, as he demanded that Congress pass the Patriot Act, no questions asked. After two and a half years, during which he arrested and secretly detained more than a thousand people, Mr. Ashcroft has yet to convict any actual terrorists. (Look at the actual trials of what Dahlia Lithwick of Slate calls "disaffected bozos who watch cheesy training videos," and you'll see what I mean.)

Just trust us, George Bush said, as he insisted that Iraq, which hadn't attacked us and posed no obvious threat, was the place to go in the war on terror. When we got there, we found no weapons of mass destruction and no new evidence of links to Al Qaeda.

Just trust us, Paul Bremer said, as he took over in Iraq. What is the legal basis for Mr. Bremer's authority? You may imagine that the Coalition Provisional Authority is an arm of the government, subject to U.S. law. But it turns out that no law or presidential directive has ever established the authority's status. Mr. Bremer, as far as we can tell, answers to nobody except Mr. Bush, which makes Iraq a sort of personal fief. In that fief, there has been nothing that Americans would recognize as the rule of law. For example, Ahmad Chalabi, the Pentagon's erstwhile favorite, was allowed to gain control of Saddam's files — the better to blackmail his potential rivals.

And finally: Just trust us, Donald Rumsfeld said early in 2002, when he declared that "enemy combatants" — a term that turned out to mean anyone, including American citizens, the administration chose to so designate — don't have rights under the Geneva Convention. Now people around the world talk of an "American gulag," and Seymour Hersh is exposing My Lai all over again



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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 09:02 AM
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1. not so fast there....
this is a REALLY good one, even for Krugman
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Gruenemann Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 09:06 AM
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2. another great one, in the Army Times no less
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 09:19 AM
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3. wow! thanks and welcome to DU!
Around the halls of the Pentagon, a term of caustic derision has emerged for the enlisted soldiers at the heart of the furor over the Abu Ghraib prison scandal: the six morons who lost the war.
Indeed, the damage done to the U.S. military and the nation as a whole by the horrifying photographs of U.S. soldiers abusing Iraqi detainees at the notorious prison is incalculable.

But the folks in the Pentagon are talking about the wrong morons.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:16 PM
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5. But they got one thing wrong -
farther down in the editorial where they say that rummy and myers left bush hanging out to dry because they didn't inform him of the pictures and he had to learn about them from the media.

From what else I've seen and read, this is NOT the case. bush did know - at least back in January.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 12:22 PM
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4. Hi Gruenemann!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:22 PM
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6. Is it really true
Edited on Tue May-11-04 01:22 PM by DaveSZ

"After two and a half years, during which he arrested and secretly detained more than a thousand people, Mr. Ashcroft has yet to convict any actual terrorists."


Is it really true that Ashcroft has detained more than a thousand people? I suppose they are probably those from Afghanistan right?

How many Americans has he held without trial and attorney?

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