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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 10:44 AM
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Senator Talent Suggests It's All Clinton's Fault


I knew it would happen but this is the first time I've heard it said. The Missouri Republican never mentioned Clinton's name but talked about cuts in the military made "all through the nineties."

Man, these guys like to reach, don't they?
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 10:45 AM
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1. Oh, the party of personal responsibility. n/t
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:32 PM
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19. He forgot to mention as enacted by the Republicans.
The Clinton administration had to fight them to get pay increases and to re-direct funds.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 10:46 AM
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2. Cuts made by Sec of Def Cheney in 91 and 92 and scheduled
Edited on Tue May-11-04 10:47 AM by blm
for phasing out in following years.

Would Mr. Talent like to address that point?
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dedhed Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 10:50 AM
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6. Yeah, no one ever mentions that...
I left the Air Force with an honorable discharge back in '91... after only 3 years of my original 4-year enlistment. How did I get out so early? I raised my hand!! Bush Sr., Inc. was so hell bent on cutting the military that they were literally asking for people to leave early.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:10 AM
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10. Yep the lifers were scared s**tless
Edited on Tue May-11-04 11:10 AM by underpants
suddenly their cozy little job wasn't a sure thing anymore. Unfortuneately the single best soldier (and one of the best people I have ever met) was in danger of getting the axe because of a DUI he had gotten 10 years prior while the biggest piece of crap I have ever met (he purposely did NOTHING so as not to chance getting in trouble) was almost assured to make it to retirement.

Sen.Talent should look into when all of the technological changes occurred. Our Bradleys didn't have the computer screens in them telling friend and foe (less friendly fire incidents) and the bombs which were 30% accurate in Gulf1 were 70% accurate in Bosnia/Kosovo and 80-90% accurate in W's war thus saving at least a few more civilian lives. Talent show get his head out of his arse and read up on THAT.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:20 AM
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12. You know Talent doesn't want to go there!

Much better for GOP purposes to ignore that inconvenient fact. Of course, by not mentioning names, he could even claim he was being critical of the actions of Poppy Bush and Cheney as well as those of Clinton.
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:34 PM
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20. But what happened to the 'best trained, best equipped military
in the world?" That's what they were saying right after the 'shock and awe' of the invasion?
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 10:46 AM
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3. When in doubt, there's always Clenis!
It tastes great AND is less filling!
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 10:48 AM
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4. Downsizing the military was started by Bush the Elder's Sec of Defense
Now, who could that be?

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 10:50 AM
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5. I think Ben Nelson
Edited on Tue May-11-04 10:55 AM by chimpsrsmarter
just cancelled out Talent..."Partisan sniping from the other side" said Nelson....Cheers to him.
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the_real_38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 10:54 AM
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7. Yeah, and I guess Clinton made it rain today, too...
.. you just can't get these right-wing fanatics off of this one. And for the record, seems to me like this is the most over-budgeted war we've ever fought. At least it's the most expensive.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 10:55 AM
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8. 2 weeks after the broadcast they blame Clinton ...
what took them so long? :shrug:
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zydeco Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:03 AM
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9. Must be the new rw talking point
a C-Span caller said it was all Clinton's fault because of don't as don't tell.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:28 AM
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14. Sounds like the same caller who got on the air with Amb. Joe Wilson

and accused him of being personally responsible for making his wife's CIA status public. It wasn't Rove, it wasn't Scooter Libby, it was Joseph Wilson himself. What a plot twist! (What did she lace her coffee with?)
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 12:51 PM
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17. No it's Clinton's fault because all the soldiers came of age
during his "immoral" presidency and because of his influence they are morally bankrupt and carried out torture(actual CSpan caller's claim).
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:15 PM
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18. Where do they train those right-wing C-SPAN callers, anyway?

It's got to take training to sound that stupid.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:20 AM
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11. the bushgang have had three and a half years
Edited on Tue May-11-04 11:20 AM by leftofthedial
to train MPs in the proper use of broomhandles and dog leashes.

Can't blame Clinton.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:25 AM
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13. If the military is understaffed then don't start wars you don't need to.
That is how I would respond to that fuckwit Talent.
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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 12:31 PM
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16. Exactly
I am beginning to think that most Americans make more of an effort to be prepared to go on a camping trip then the Bush administration makes to go to war. Bush and the hawks in his administration should have known whether or not the U.S. military was prepared before deciding to invade a second nation.

Talent is also responsible for this mess in Iraq. If he really believed that the military was weakened too much by spending cuts during the 1990s, he should have spoken out against the war before the war started.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:40 AM
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15. I thought it was privatization's fault?
As far as I can tell, privatization is costing us financially as well as diplomatically.
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