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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 05:23 PM
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Kerry Focused on 5 Possible Running Mates, People Say
Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry is focusing on five potential running mates, including former party nomination rivals Senator John Edwards and retired General Wesley Clark, according to campaign and party officials familiar with the selection process.

The others under consideration are Representative Richard Gephardt of St. Louis, Senator Bob Graham of Florida -- both of whom also made bids for the Democratic nomination -- and Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack, the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said. Kerry won't name his choice until next month, the officials said.

``With the exception of Vilsack, this is a very safe, predictable list,'' said Stu Rothenberg, editor of the nonpartisan Rothenberg Political Report. ``You have here a number of people who ran for president, who have already been vetted, who are something of known quantities.''

Naming a running mate before the Democratic National Convention in July would add another fund raiser to the campaign and another voice to promote Kerry's proposals and criticize President George W. Bush. Vice President Dick Cheney has been raising money for the Republican re-election effort and has been using speeches to say voters should have ``ample reason to doubt'' Kerry's judgment on national security.

Kerry has refused to say who he is considering and his campaign declined to comment on the selection process.

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=ac2_bSZMZcHU&refer=top_world_news
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 05:26 PM
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1. No Gephardt
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uncertainty1999 Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 09:51 PM
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43. Agreed .. please let it NOT be Gephardt
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 10:18 PM
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48. No Gephardt. I agree.
We need someone exciting... Edwards is my favorite choice!! Howard Dean would be fun, but he's not even being considered, I imagine.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 05:28 PM
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2. Of them I rank my preference as Graham, Edwards, Clark, Vilsack, Gephardt
Edited on Tue May-11-04 05:29 PM by Bombtrack
I don't think that is it though. I think that he's considering women as well. Landrieu, Sebelius, and Jane Harman to be specific. If you through them in I still rank Gephardt last of my preference with Landrieu as my second choice overall.
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alonso_quijano Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 05:28 PM
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3. Good news!
No Bayh!
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 05:30 PM
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4. So glad to see..
Wes Clark is on the list.

I can't help but believe that clark would be an incredible asset, with his military experience, economic background and populist ideas. Clark was right about Iraq, and I think he could help get the situation under control. I know he is well regarded by Muslims, in large part due to Kosovo.
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 05:45 PM
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8. Clark would be great!....
he is VERY experienced in foreign policy!
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:53 PM
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39. Yeah, Clark. That's who I'd pick.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 05:33 PM
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5. Good list
I like the list. I prefer either John Edwards or Wes Clark. I would rank Graham last on this list.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 05:49 PM
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10. I agree
Graham last. Clark first for me. Not once, during the primaries, did Graham impress me.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 05:39 PM
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6. Where is the token woman that these candidates put on their "short list"
with the understanding that of course she won't actually get picked?

Just asking.

It's a decent bunch, but, boy, is it male and white.
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 05:40 PM
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7. my ranking? Clark. Clark. Clark. Clark. Clark ... and maybe Clark.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 05:49 PM
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9. In view of todays brutal beheading, Clark would be the smart move.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:12 PM
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15. Clark would be an extremely smart move.
Gets my vote, that's for sure. Although I will be voting for Kerry/WHOEVER this November.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:20 PM
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32. Yup, me too. Kerry and Mongo from Rock Ridge will suffice.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:06 PM
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12. Ditto the General n/t
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:11 PM
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13. or he could go with Clark Clark Clark or ...
CLARK!!! :)
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 05:55 PM
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11. Clark oughta be the choice.
We're going to need his focus on getting this wreck of a foreign policy fixed. He'd be a great choice for Kerry.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:11 PM
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14. It is both sad and disappointng that
in 2004 this list is all white and all male. Sadly there are virtually no African Americans in a position to be on this list for our party and only a few women. Maybe if Obama wins big in Illionois and can win reelection in 2010 he can be on our ticket in 2012.
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:15 PM
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18. Kerry's perceived weaknesses are defense and foreign policy
Clark is the way to go.

:thumbsup:
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:25 PM
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21. I honestly don't have a lot of opinion on this
other than I am adamantly opposed to Gephardt. Of the rest I would put Clark first.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:13 PM
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16. Vilsack is a bad choice.
He has voted for English Only legislation and against multiculturalism on various occasions.

An acquaintance of mine sent this to another listserv of which I am a part.

Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack appears to be the hot name of the week in John F. Kerry's secretive search for a running mate, having been spotted with the right people recently."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12863-2004May9.html

To refresh your memory, Vilsack is the Democrat who signed the most
recent English-only bill into law (2002):
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JWCRAWFORD/ia.htm

I spoke beforehand with one of Vilsack's aides, who hoped to talk him into a veto, and gave her as much ammunition as I could. She described the governor as very torn about whether to give in to the anti-immigrant sentiment sweeping Iowa at the time. But I suspect she was really speaking for herself. After capitulating to political expediency, he offered these weasel words:

"I recognize that the bill is not without controversy," Vilsack said. "My hope is that we will look beyond the controversy and put politics behind us so we can focus on our commitments and responsibility to improve education for all our children."
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JWCRAWFORD/AP28.htm

With all the criticisms of Kerry these days for running a campaign
without significant input from blacks or Latinos, Vilsack would be just about the worst possible choice for VP. Unfortunately, it would also be consistent with everything else we've seen from this born-again New Democrat.
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:22 PM
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20. I think Vilsack's surname would be his biggest liability. Don't flame me,
but I think a lot of people would perceive it as too 'foreign'.
(I know, I know, but a big chunk of the electorate really is that shallow. Kerry's way too "French" for some people.)

:eyes:
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:14 PM
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17. I thought Clark said he would not be VP?
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:17 PM
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19. To Dean.
He said that national security has to be at the top of the ticket. Kerry's got it.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:08 PM
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28. actually he has said it repeatedly since Kerry won the nomination
but if he is asked I would bet he would reverse.
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LeinesRed Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 10:06 PM
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46. last week he said he was not interested
I think it was on Judy Woodruff's program...he said that he was very happy in the private sector. But he sure has been quite visible lately...I like that!
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:25 PM
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22. As much as I'd love to see Clark on the ticket
I really think he'd make a stellar National Security Advisor. Can the VP be the NSA?

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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:25 PM
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23. Yes, Clark or Edwards
no to others.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:16 PM
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30. Right with you, in order.
Clark, then Edwards.

Both terrific. :toast:
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Finch Donating Member (487 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:29 PM
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24. Graham has been discounted by the Kerry team...
...and wisely so imho, and I doubt Clark is getting a great deal of attention... Edwards, Gephardt and Vilsack would be expected (although i think Gephardt would be a weak choice and i really doubt that Vilsack would be much better) but there are a number of others and Clark and Graham are not amongst mougst them from what i have seen and heard...
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:41 PM
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25. Edwards would add some life & downhomeness to Kerry's campaign
Clark would add media charisma, intelligence, and military weight. Graham is just too boring, Vilsack too unknown, and Gephardt would do more for Nader's campaign than Kerry's.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:54 PM
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27. If the war stays in the front page it's Clark
If the economy becomes the front page news it's Edwards. I think it will be Clark as an experience officer to get us out of Iraq while Kerry works on the domestic front. We need Jamie Rubin in the cabinet, he was the assistant to Madeline Albright. Richard Holebrook, Gary Hart and Edwards as Ag are a few others. Gep would be ideal for the Sec of Labor.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:45 PM
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26. There Is No Better Possible Running Mate Than Wesley K. Clark.
I have the greatest respect for the other men who have been mentioned but there could be no better choice in these times than General Clark. The situtation we face in the world is not going to change substantially between now and November, Bush can not back out of Iraq and things there certainly are not going to improve. Clark is THE man when it comes to a strong national security stance. It simply has to be him.
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:11 PM
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29. I like (in order) Clark, Edwards, Gephardt, Vilsack, Graham
But I'd be happy with any of them.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:00 PM
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31. Well frankly Edwards makes me swoon but
Clark may be the ticket.

Take your war on terror and shove it where the sun does shine!

I think it's important to get whomever would get the most votes for that loyalty alone.

Gephardt? SNOOZE

Graham? Big fat SNOOZE

Vilsack-that name alone is a no-go, sorry.



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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:24 PM
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33. Clark would be best for the current situation,
Edwards if the country was still mostly focused on manufacturing job losses. For our democracy (which currently has a shadow government running grave things), I prefer Clark who has said this was what he was worried about.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:38 PM
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34. my two cents
Edited on Tue May-11-04 08:53 PM by welshTerrier2
for months, I thought it would be either Clark or Vilsack ...

Vilsack is appealing because of the midwestern battleground states ... he's a strong campaigner and adds administrative skills to Kerry's legislative experience ... and if events steered this campaign to a domestic focus, I think Vilsack would have gotten the nod ...

but the war in Iraq just will not step to the sidelines ... Kerry was wise to not choose too quickly ...

Clark, unlike most of the other names mentioned with the exception of Graham, has maintained a high visibility ... I've seen him regularly on TV commenting on the status of the war ... and he fits right in line with Kerry's commercials ... the tag line is: strength and service. Clark gels nicely with the military motif Kerry will run on ... and his experience in military strategy and "real world" diplomacy is just what is needed for a conflict that seemingly just gets worse and worse everyday ...

Clark may not be my first choice but he is my prediction for the VP slot ...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:43 PM
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36. agree
this situation pretty much dictates his possibilty unless things drastically change away from the Iraq situation.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:40 PM
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35. I hope it's Clark.

No other choice will satisfy me. The gates of Hell are
open in Iraq, and we need a man of Clark's military background
on the ticket to help Kerry solve the problem.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:51 PM
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37. ABC.....Anybody but Cheney
Wait, I changed my mind. Make that Clark.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:55 PM
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40. My ranking
Clark is my first choice, followed closely by Edwards, then Graham. Then Vilsack (know nothing about him other than him being govenor of IA) and then Geph, way at the end.

I'm having a harder time respecting Gep with the recent happenings in Iraq, because he was so enthusiastic in his support of the war.

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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 09:01 PM
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41. My favorite five
Clark, Wesley Clark, Wes Clark, John Edwards, ABG (anyone but Gephardt). Gephardt has anti-charisma. I want to see Clark in the administration, because his country needs him. I'd be happy with him as NSA and Edwards is a great campaigner but I have two issues about Edwards: He has not shone in foreign policy discussions and he'd be the one to debate Cheney. I'd really love to see Clark wipe the floor with Cheney. And I cannot stand to hear the son of a millworker story even one more time. If I do, my head will explode.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 09:42 PM
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42. Clark, Edwards, Graham, Vilsack, Gephardt
Haven't ranked the candidates in a while.
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 09:56 PM
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44. rankings: Clark, Graham, Edwards, Gephardt, Vilsack
Vilsack and Gephardt could be switched, depending on which one polls better in their home state. Graham ahead of Edwards also assumes that Graham delivers at least a few points of boost in Florida polls, and that Edwards' boost isn't enough to win NC.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 09:59 PM
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45. Clark.............Clark................Clark..............Clark
Kerry/Clark..........I like the sound of it!
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 10:16 PM
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47. Here's mine:
Vilsack is a dark horse, but I agree, his name is just "too foreign" sounding. Kerry doesn't need that when his wife will be the first foreign first lady (that I know of anyway). In the 'not to mention' category: Kerry/Ballsack anyone?

Gephart is going nowhere, for many reasons. I won't waste my time.

Graham is "too weird", and boring. A non-starter. In the primaries, he couldn't even get Fla. excited.

Edwards would be a mistake. He's too pretty, it would be the beauty and the beast ticket. Two guys from Congress. He's entirely too green. He wouldn't bring North or South Carolina with him. Cheney would kill him in the debates. Cheney is a liar (among many other evil traits), but he does have major gravitas. Edwards? Sorry, he's a lightweight.

It's Clark. Of these, he's the only one that makes sense.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 10:19 PM
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49. Clark, absolutely
With every day that goes by, I'm more convinced. He is an opportunity for our party that we cannot pass by -- especially in these times, in this campaign, with these problems.
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guajira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 10:24 PM
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50. NO Graham - Please Please Please NO Graham!
Edited on Tue May-11-04 10:30 PM by guajira
Everyone I know here in Florida wishes he would just go away and write a book or something!

Clark, Clark, Clark, Clark or Clark!!
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