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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:58 PM
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10,000 Innocent Iraqis Killed in our Invasion and Occupation
Where is the outrage? There have been countless photos. There's no difference between premeditated torture and premeditated targeting of civilians with cluster bombs, checkpoint killings of cars full of innocents, and search and destroy aggression by our forces.

Our soldiers, under the direction of Bush and Co. been abusing the Iraqis for months, in the open, with little mind to the expressions of outrage in the nation and the rest of the world. Now Bush and his cabal are sorry. They're only sorry they got caught.

Who thinks we will stop abusing innocent Iraqis? Who thinks that Bush and his minions actually care about Iraqi lives?


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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:09 PM
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1. Lets just come home.
So many dead.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:12 PM
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2. I'm with you
Edited on Tue May-11-04 07:13 PM by bigtree
We never had any moral authority there and we are creating the environment for this growing circle of violence with our ignorant aggression.

We should apologize and leave.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:12 PM
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3. last account of how many Iraqi's dead was between 20/30,000
and that was several months ago
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:15 PM
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4. I heard Rhandi say that and I accept the number
I could use a link. http://www.iraqbodycount.net has the number at more than 10,000 civilians killed.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:19 PM
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5. What the world needs now is empathy, sweet empathy.
The right has none, and we need more.

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ex_jew Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:49 PM
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6. Do you think they put the bodies in a "Mass Grave" tm ?
Oh no, only Saddam would do such a thing.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:58 PM
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7. Lots of folks say many bodies in the mass graves are from our first war
More than 250,000 individual bombs and missiles were dropped or fired in 42 days onto Iraq in that first war. Some 244 laser-guided bombs and 88 cruise missiles were reportedly delivered against Baghdad targets. The people of Iraq suffered from power outages and systems failures caused by bombing attacks on their weakened infrastructure. Medicine deteriorated without proper refrigeration. Food spoiled; water stagnated and became dangerously polluted.

The citizens of Iraq, already starving and impoverished as a result of the crippling sanctions imposed on Iraq by the U.N., at the bequest of the U.S., were not 'liberated' by the destruction. Of Iraq's 545,000 troops in the Kuwait Theater of Operations, about 100,000 are believed to have lost their lives.

Before the imposition of sanctions in the '80's, and before the war, Iraq boasted the region's best schools and hospitals, and enjoyed the smallest gap between the rich and poor of any of its neighbors. Also, Iraq's educated class ranked among the region's best.

Six weeks of intensive bombing reduced Iraq to what was described as a pre-industrial state. Unemployment soared and the black market flourished, resulting in a widening of the gap between the impoverished majority and those few who managed to cling to wealth.

Before sanctions were imposed, ninety percent of Iraq's income came from oil exports. Once sanctions restricted oil sales, lack of basic food and medicine soon reached catastrophic levels. The country's water, electrical, and oil systems, and other infrastructure were devastated in the bombing campaign.

Human Rights Watch documented the effects of the first U.S. aggression against Iraq and found that more than 500 civilian buildings and homes were targeted and destroyed with no apparent connection to any threat to the U.S. or its allies.

Middle East Watch, in a more damning account, tells of some 9,000 homes, housing some 72,000 people, that had been destroyed or badly damaged during the bombing. Some 2,500 of the buildings reported destroyed were in Baghdad and another 1,900 in Basra.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 09:09 PM
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8. Ya know, bigtree, you are absolutely correct
What we have done in the last twelve years makes today's news seem like, well, like mere torture.

The thing is, finally, other people are stirred, finally, to begin objecting.

It's a big deal. Finally, the bad news is reaching the sheeple, and it's pissing them off. That pissed off feeling they are emoting, is the same emotion we have felt for years. FINALLY!

A union of PO'd people, in numbers growing larger everyday, might just lead to a pullout sometime soon. The sooner the better, eh, bigtree?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 09:22 PM
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9. I'm always amazed at what it takes to spark folks into action
Sometimes it's something small, usually it's something that folks have been hollering about for months. I regret that it has come to this, but if these images can galvanize opposition to this war then I'm aboard. I'm pretty determined that way. Righteous indignation and all of that.

Funny, the first awful thought I had when I heard the news of the first plane crash and the possibility that it was a terror attack, was that we brought this on ourselves somehow.

I don't have any regard for the idiots who flew the planes into the towers and killed innocents, nor do I find any excuse for the indiscriminate bombings and the mismanagement of our forces which has led to the killings and abuses by our forces.

It's a circle of violence. Today's killings become tomorrow's revenge.
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