"We warn you this is not for children...

but we're going to play the audio from the beheading today during morning drive time."

And last night on local Faux affiliate "We can't bring you the video due to it's graphic nature, but if you'd like to check it out, it's at blah-blah-blah.com but we warn you...it's extremely violent."

Why is The Right trying to shove the video down my throat? And their disingenuous "warnings" make me sick. Am I "soft" for not wanting to watch it? I'm sure it's horrible why don't we leave it at that?

anymore than the prison photos...both are valid news stories...
for 'balance' it makes sense to show bad acts by both sides..

as to not watching it..no, that doesn't mean you're soft necessarily...it's a choice people have to make...I have not watched it yet...

They ARE shoving the video though. There's a big difference in the tone they use. They encourage you to see the beheading whereas they didn't care if you saw the photos.

as should other news shows..

there are valid questions on both:

the prison photos show (apparent) crimes for which people are charged..they are evidence...do they impact a jury?

the beheading video shows an act that people are not likely to be criminally charged with (more likely to be killed)...

the prison photos were used as a reason for the beheading (it's crap, but that's what they say), a sorta predictable response...

They didn't want you to see the photos because they definitively helped the anti-war movement. However, they do want you to see the video so that American bloodlust resumes, and Bush's war and the abuse photos seem justified again.

trying to 'help the anti-war movement'? is that any better for them to do...they all pretend to be objective...

The point is not THAT they show the photos or the video, it's how they present it.

When Fox News was showing the photos, they didn't show all of them, they showed them very briefly, and (I can't be 100% sure since I don't watch every day), they don't direct you to where you can see the photos online.

When they were talking about the video, however, they went into much greater detailed coverage and gave you directions on how to view it yourself if you'd like.

The difference in treatment of the two stories is the spin. They really encourage you to view the video, but not the pictures.

The thread title was something like, "Link to Berg Be-heading".

It is sure news to me that DU was shoving the video down anyone's throat.

I certainly hope you can see the huge difference between a place where liberals can exchange ideas freely amongst their own kind in an atmosphere that openly celebrates its bias versus an allegedly unbiased news organization.

Absolute Moralists vs Moral Relativists. The emotional shock of this event is exactly the sort of impetus that the absolutists desire. It forces people to react. It forces conclusions without evidence. It is an assault of the moral relativists position.

It is their contention that all the worlds problems are caused by not adhering to their particular moral code. Thus anytime something horrible happens they try to link it to the opposition. They believe that relativism amounts to coddling evil doers. Supporting the enemies of humanity. Thus whenever there is an action taken on the part of anothers cultures value system they will hold it up as an example of evil inherant in other value systems.

Are you suggesting that this statement:

"It is wrong to saw a person's head off"

Could ever -- EVER -- not be true?

on edit:

Are you also suggesting that this statement:

"It is wrong to humiliate and torture prisoners of war"

Could ever -- EVER -- not be true?

Too often it launches your opponent on a slippery slope.

I know what's right and wrong, and so do you. However, we recognize gray areas, contexts, circumstances, and factors that the Absolute Moralists refuse to acknowledge. Personally, I don't consider that approach to be one of moral relativism. It's not relativistic to weigh all the factors and make a decision.

The footage of al CIAda murdering an American citizen must be shoved down our collective subconscious' throat to further indoctrinate the sheeple to the
military-petroleum complex's takeover of the world.

of the abuse, rape, and possible torture of Iraqis are unavailable to the public but the beheading is encouraged to be viewed. I think that speaks for itself.

.. yet the media, with the governments blessing obviously, are showing the public beheading of an American citizen as though it were a clip from American Idol. How the fuck do those sick people at Fox justify playing the audio of this murder on the morning drive time? I hate the fucking media right now so much...

And I hate the media too. They're lazy and ineffective, when they aren't carrying water for the RNC.

(other than the Internet) actually showed the video of Berg being be-headed?

The war is for WHAT YOU BELIEVE TO BE TRUE. Whoever controls your belief system, controls how you react, what you think and how you behave.

Orwell was a very perceptive man.

Too many casket photos demoralizing the citizenry. Gotta show those damn AAArabs killing one of ours. This is all meant to shore up support amongst chimpy's base.

Actually he said, "Congrats JD, you win most pathetic email of the day." All because of the little message I sent him this morning...

Subj: So we can't show pictures of flag-draped coffins...

But we CAN play the audio from an American getting his head cut off? You make me sick Roberts. You are not a patriot...you're a scumbag
opportunist. And spare us your disingenuous "this isn't for the kids" crap.

You should stick to local issues like Westerfield. That's your comfort zone.

JD
San Diego