Stop writing "four contractors burned alive"

From everything I have read about the four contractors, they were NOT burned alive. I keep hearing that repeated even on DU.
I didn't go back too far but here are two sources, one a right-winger and one a mainstream publication.

They both say, killed then burned, or shot then burned.

Now to some people I suppose this wouldn't make a difference. To me, however, if someone is dead, it doesn't really matter what happens next. Whether the body is cremated or has it's guts sucked out by the undertaker and the shell is buried, the person is dead and feels no pain.

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http://www.townhall.com/columnists/brentbozell/bb20040512.shtml
Look no further than March 31, when a vicious mob shot four American contractors, mutilated them, burned their corpses, dragged them through the streets and hung body parts from bridges.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101040510-631972,00.html

Easy Company set up camp inside Fallujah on April 24, three weeks after four U.S. contractors were killed and their bodies burned and mutilated

I've noticed that two, but hadn't put one and one together. Saying they were burned alive is essentially a deciet (or repeating a deciet).

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I guess that makes it OK then?

Dead is dead. However if the killings are used for comparison, it is important to be accurate.

I'm sure you understand, don't you? Beheading alive = burned alive

I am 100% positive that if Nick Berg had been shot first and dead when he was decapitated, that the anguish would be somewhat mollified.

they could have died in any way, shape and order you care to think of and they would indeed still be just as dead.

as if they were innocently involved in reconstruction. They were hired guns. Mercenaries operating outside the law.

they were only involved in reconstruction. Aiding and abetting an illegal occupation by war profiteering is the crime I would accuse this scum of...

and 'armed guards' and "black ops" as well. It's not like they were there to build schools in any way, shape or form.

AND they were killed by their own. Their deaths were a total set-up designed to inflame the uprising in fallujeh.

The guys in the prison that were "abused" were pretty bad folks too.

I guess that justifies any treatment?

You have to be black in America to get that special treatment.

Or raped? Or in the pictures?

Or just someone who was improperly imprisoned?

Making the other side look like the "good guys" acting righteously just makes us look stupid (and deserve the "anti-American" label). It made me sick to my stomach yesterday to hear Randi Rhodes describe OBL that way.

It's entirely possible for us to rail against improper treatment without making the other guy out to be some sort of heroes. I can freely say "beheading someone on camera is a million ties worse than taking pictures of him naked" without pretending that the pictures were somehow acceptable.

There was a story about it shortly after the Hersch story.

Making the other side look like the "good guys" acting righteously just makes us look stupid (and deserve the "anti-American" label). It made me sick to my stomach yesterday to hear Randi Rhodes describe OBL that way.

I didn't hear Randi Rhodes so I can't answer for her. I don't make them look good and us look bad..however, having studied the constitution and the fifth and sixtha amendments when I was in law school rather in-depth, I prefer to know there was an actual crime for which they were convicted prior to seeing them punished and while I realize the US constitution does not apply in Iraq, the Geneva convention does. I prefer to see us living up to it for our own soldier's sakes when THEY are captured.

I also don't believe in equivocating ala "our crimes are better than theirs." When we haven't seen the people who were penetrated with broomsticks or deprived of food for weeks...

It's entirely possible for us to rail against improper treatment without making the other guy out to be some sort of heroes. I can freely say "beheading someone on camera is a million ties worse than taking pictures of him naked" without pretending that the pictures were somehow acceptable.

And I can say dropping bombs on neighborhoods and killing families and children in order to get one person as we did several months ago is a million times worse than beheading one guy who went over there to profit from the war. See...it works both ways

there are about 20,000 of them in iraq and afghanistan, not all americans. of the 4 that were killed and mutilated, one was a notorious south african jackal. they go wherever the pay is best for killing people and overthrowing small countries.

bushco's media calls them 'contract workers', confusing the general public into thinking they are construction men or truck drivers.
they are there to protect bremer, and torture the locals, called 'insurgents'. they can do things that the army ain't allowed to, and they salute no one.

to all those who posted about "contractors"

and they were killed by some tortured Iraqi's family members :shrug:

after all "private contractors were doing the torture in Abu Ghraib


just thought not a justification :shrug:

well at least to me. Interview portion shown this a.m. on CBS she shrugged off "getting them Eye-Rackis nekkid" over "them" killing, burning and dragging "our guys" through the streets.

Since she was assisting in "getting them nekkid and humiliating 'em" long before those men were slain it made me wonder if maybe she had come in contact with them at one point.

:tinfoilhat:

Of course with her lawyer by her side she'll say what he thinks should be imparted to the public, especially if it makes her seem a "victim".

:mad:

and was shot...they'd rip his body apart in the streets after he was dead too. or...or ...or...James Byrd, anyone? Yeah we are so much more civilized.

as well...

it went from not clearly saying on media, these people were dead. they allowed it. i kept saying to tv, say they were dead and burned, then dragged. never did

lately to validate behavior now, we are to dragges and dismembered alive then burned.............

big difference,